7 Jun 2015

Hendo reveals: 'Brilliant' £150k-a-week international star 'can't wait' to sign for Liverpool

Last week, Liverpool officially confirmed that Manchester City midfielder James Milner will sign for the Reds on July 1st, and according to Anfield's captain elect, Jordan Henderson, the 29-year old - who will reportedly earn a sickeningly undeserved salary of £150k-a-week - is a major transfer coup for the club.

When asked over on Friday about Milner Hendo channeled his inner-Rodgers by hailing Milner as a 'fantastic player and a 'brilliant' signing, who'll be 'brilliant in the dressing room', and 'brilliant on the pitch' (the key words here is 'brilliant'). He further added:

“From speaking to him [Milner], he can’t wait to get started. You know what you are going to get from Milly, and I look forward to playing with him.”

'Milly'? Urgh. I hope that effeminate nickname doesn't stick - it reminds of 'Star Wars Episode 1: The Phantom Menace', when various characters risibly refer to Anakin Skywalker (i.e. Darth Vader) as 'Anni' (and I hate being reminded of that godforsaken movie), but I digress...

In my view, Henderson goes way overboard with his fawning tribute to Milner (he labels him 'brilliant' three times), and it sounds to me like he's overcompensating a little.

'Milly' is widely expected to take Steven Gerrard's vacant central midfield role (just typing 'Milner' and 'Gerrard' in the same sentence fills me with nausea), which means he may end up as direct competition with Henderson.

As such, Henderson is probably trying to appear as magnanimous as possible, even though he may privately fear that he'll be under increased pressure to retain his place in the team next season.

That said, it will not surprise me in the slightest if Rodgers plays Milner out of position as a holding midfielder, just as he did with Gerrard many times in the now-departed captain's final two seasons at Anfield.

Gerrard did well there for a while, before he (predictably) got found out, but playing Milner there will be the latest in a long line of bizarre positional decisions, most of which have been detrimental to the team.

So, what is Milner's best position. According to Reds legend Jamie Carragher:

"His [Milner's] best position is tucked in from the right in a central role which is also Jordan Henderson's [best position], so it'll be interesting how those two fit into next year’s midfield set up".



I am against the signing of Milner as a regular first-teamer, but, if he is to be a regular fixture in the team, then he should be played in his best position, and if it transpires that he is more effective than Henderson 'tucked in from the right in a central role', then Henderson should make way.

Obviously, the player who performs the best in a given position should keep that position, and if that means established players drop to the bench, then so be it.

As always, the team comes first, not the individual.

Author: Jaimie K



148 comments:

  1. So our midfield for next season so far pending new signing and departures will be Lucas, Can, Henderson, Allen and Milner. Good enough?


    Our midfield was weak last season and the addition how will the addition of Milner change anything when we have no midfield anchorman. Lucas can do the job but with his injuries he simply cannot be relied on.

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  2. Hendo going 'overboard', perhaps as acting captain he is being friendly and welcoming, for goodness sake Jamie, anyone who is a new visitor to the site, would think you are a cynic or even worse, someone who objects to this signing.

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  3. On the evidence of the Milner signing the club are 'willing' to pay a huge weekly salary when it suits them. Okay, so go sign Pogba (debatable whether he IS actually a DM based on yesterday's match) or Gundogan or Shneiderlin. Pay what their club wants and pay THEM over the top salaries. We clearly need protection for our back 4 or 3 and as that is a pressing position and we aren't in the CL, why not apply the 'Milner Rule'. (Yeah, I'm patenting that).

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  4. Here is another thing to consider, FSG appoint new backroom staff and sit them down with Rodgers to discuss the new way forward and there is no agreement between them then what? Damn this is getting tiresome :-)

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  5. You are forgetting Coutinho. and yes the midfield should be good enough. Where we failed last season was in the final third, suggesting to me that we need to be more concerned by the striker/winger positions. Sterling is off and Ibe is not quite ready to be a regular starter. I would say therefore that we need at least two goal getting attacking players- preferably ones which can play any where on the front line- the theo walcott type. Does Kovacic fit this description?

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  6. I made a similar point the other day. Milner is a decent player but to pay him an over the top salary (worth it?) when we could lure a top player like Higuaín who is at another struggling team by using the wages we are paying Milner plus whatever else Higuaín would ask for?

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  7. Btw, anyone know how Texiera is getting along. Perhaps he is ready to be eased into 1st team?

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  8. Our defence was a shambles last season and has been since Rodgers has been in charge which our midfield is a contributor to.


    We were shite all over the park.

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  9. I doubt that's how it would work (Although I can't prove otherwise) guessing the owners would have confirmed what they would be doing in the review meeting and Rodgers agreed to it. There would probably have been a gentle ultimatum of our way or the heighway (ha!). What it looks like to me is that the owners are pretty much going to make Rodgers' role untenable so that he walks as opposed to being pushed (They'd have to pay him a good £10m or so in compensation otherwise). Another angle is that he actively encouraged their approach and is ready to work with their original model of having a DOF etc.

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  10. I see your point, but surely that is a tactical issue. The midfielders if anything are of the water carrying, tracking back, tackling type and should, if following the correct tactics, be able to contribute effectively to a good defence.

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  11. i'm no medical man, is that serious?

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  12. Sorry but almost every fan would agree that we need a midfielder who can dominate and unfortunately we have none.

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  13. If Pascoe and Marsh have been removed by FSG then sitting down Rodgers with his new backroom staff to discuss the way going forward would have to be done to try figure out whether everyone is on the same page.


    How can anyone know what was discussed in the review when it was Rodgers, Werner, Ayre and Gordon at the the meeting?


    Would any of FSG's member have gone up to the media and spoken to them?


    Nobody really knows what is happening behind the scenes. It is a guessing game right now. What we do right now is that changes have been made and there will be more to follow.

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  14. I think BR will probably change formation and go to a 4231 formation. With Henderson and milner as the 2 and couthino and lalana /ibe/sterling?/new signings will makeup the three. Sturridge /origi /new signings for the forward line. Change between formations to 442 diamond with can/allen/lucas as the DM and hendo and milner just ahead and couthino tip of the diamond with 2 strikers .

    We are linked to kovecic if we get him who is a very good player we will have couthino mk2

    Now we also need a decent backroom staff. Pako and the big fin (Hyppia ) are linked both would be really good as we should improve defencivly.

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  15. No need to apologise about it. Of course it would be nice to get in some upgrades, but I don't think it will be easy for us to attract/afford someone of said talent and we really need to focus on getting some goals into the team. A bit of optimism in what we my old boy. I have high hopes for Can

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  16. Cannot afford it when we have just signed Milner on a very lucrative contract?


    Cant afford it when LFC have paid out £100's of millions in transfer fees, signing on fees and agent fees since FSG arrived?

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  17. Give him a chance ! you obviously dont rate Milner but at least he puts in some effort unlike that waste of space Ballotelli who cost £16m and couldnt give a toss Milner came on a free so the club can pay bigger wages You dont half write some crap !!!!

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  18. I like your idea of what Rodger's new idea will be. er your majesty mutual oral sex

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  19. 'Free' signings are not free. The player receives a signing on fee and his agent also gets a cut.

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  20. I seriously doubt Milner is on such an extreme wage and JK should drop the constant tag. Milner knows where he can get the most remuneration from, the club he just left.

    I suspect there are other factors, such as a promise to be given a certain role i.e central role, key player in the team, not peripheral etc.

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  21. I cannot think that Milner would have settled for less than what he was earning at City.

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  22. Maybe it's unfathomable, but some players would accept a lesser wage (however, remember the perspective of wages in football) for other factors or guarantees. Reported offer from City was 160K a week. If you believe it, it smacks of desperation, and they should be desperate with their low quota of English players to fulfill league registration requirements.

    Milner (reportedly) wanted a central role, and he'd be more of a first teamer here than City, despite him playing playing a significant part in winning titles and cups.

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  23. City have lost a home grown player which they do not have many of so it would not be out of the question that he was offered £160k to make up the EPL home grown quota.

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  24. It is a guessing game mate! We need Inspector Moores or Inspetor Gadget on the case as the whole things a bit of a mystery

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  25. Credible sources (like The Guardian) claim he'll be on £150k, so why should I drop it?

    Sent from Samsung Mobile

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  26. Yep we don't know for sure what Milner's wage will be .... Anyway look at what we paid for players who are not even played and what they are pocketing each week . Also the saving on Johnson's wages for instance . We have to look at the broader picture ... If Milner comes in and does a job for us for a season or two he will be more than worth it .
    We need to get back on track and if he just plays a part in bringing the commitment and passion back to the team that will be good enough for me !

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  27. Hate to say it but I feel the Milner arriving wi be better for the team.than the aberdare departing. Milner obviously has never been even close to Gerrard at his best but neither has Gerrard for a while. Miner's mobility will mean Henderson doesn't have to always worry about who is partnering him.

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  28. And how much has he played ? Could it be that a chunk of Milner's wage will be performance related also ?

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  29. Not having Gerrard in that position will help though.

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  30. Wouldn't hurt him to have a bit more competition either.....

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  31. Falicy to say we cannot afford.it. Our wage bill has decreased year on year and we are losing g our two top earners this wi Dow.

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  32. Having Milner there were result in the same mess as we had with Gerrard so the point is moot.

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  33. Chris Rossington11:02 am, June 07, 2015

    Zzzzzzzzzzz

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  34. James Friggin Milly, now if that's not an awesome name

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  35. Logan, Luring a top player means having Champions League and we don't have that, why do you think the likes of Lacazette, Casillas and next will be Teves turn us down? No CL, BR needs to be realistic, which he is. I agree we need influencing players, Milner is that but something else he is, is a Lure, I believe BR did the business to use him as a Lure for other players to LFC.

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  36. pretty sure hendo is happy to play next to milner, not allen next season

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  37. I think this and the lack of transfer fee are what avemade Milner attractive to us. If we'd have needed to £10m plus those wages he wouldn't e signing for us.

    Sometimes players are bought to fill s specific need in the team, however I don't think anything is set in stone and where he'll play will be decided by what BR thinks is his best combination, but Milner will be play

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  38. Lacazette, Casillas and Tevez are at teams which will be competing in the CL next season so the chances of them moving to LFC are zero.

    Higuaín is at a team which is in the same position as us = Struggling. So flash the cash and see if he is willing.

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  39. Why would it? He is more mobile and tactically very aware. Two things were Gerrard fell down. It's a touch lazy to just say it would be the same problem. Doesn't seem like you thought about it at all.

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  40. Other sources such as the telegraph are reporting 100k. Why pick and choose to make it sound worse?

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  41. Milner is not a holding midfielder so not sure why you are trying to argue.

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  42. Good enough for what?

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  43. Miners bestb position is on the right side of a 442 .....and I've watched him since he was 18, his I main talent is getting a decent ball in the box an awkward angle, he isn't a DM he isn't even a cm and fail to see what he offers us as we don't play 442 or play with a target man,he is very similar to Stewart downing and Steve guppy .ie not a lot of pace but can get a ball in.....expectbto see him end up at right back ......remember you heard it here first

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  44. Your far too in to this idea that players only play one position. Milnr has played holding for Villa, City and England.

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  45. Played holding for City, Villa and England?


    When exactly was this?

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  46. He has played DM and CM for club and country though, He has played srtiker, fullback, winger, CM and DM. His best position may be where you say but he would do well in a diamond or in a three man midfield.

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  47. Dates? Don't be a bell. England last time he played when we switched formations. City couldn't tell you. Villa lots of times.

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  48. Milner is not a bad player and his experience and attitude will have a good effect on the team but if FSG think the likes of Milner and Ings are going make that much difference then they are living in a dream world. We need an injection of proven quality to take the team that step further maybe 4 or 5 new signings, who? that's open to debate but if FSG are intent on getting the team back on the right track then they need to make a bold statement to us fans and the rest of the footballing world in that Liverpool mean business and that's by showing a bit more ambition in the transfer market and unfortunately that involves spending cash and paying them a big wage in some cases. I am not saying we should go crazy, and the player has to be the right player (Not Benteke - Square Peg in a Round Hole) but that big Marquee signing builds confidence in the fans and players alike and becomes that statement of intent that we mean business. Liverpool FC are still capable of attracting big players it is the system in place that is the problem with this ridiculous comittee, truth is money talks first and foremost otherwise if a player was driven by success alone then they would all take a huge wage cut to play for Real Madrid and Barcelona so money and wages are a huge influence on any players decision to join a team.

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  49. Milner will end up at rb.....he isn't a DM or cm and he doesn't offer enough to play in the front 3

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  50. I'm not sure how you can judge miners work rate for Liverpool when he hasn't played

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  51. Oh so he might have been tried there then? I cannot once remember Milner playing as a holding midfielder when I did see him play.


    If that is what his requirement will be at Anfield then our midfield will continue to struggle.

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  52. If reports are right he's got a 37 m 5 year deal Logan ,some on this forum think that free

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  53. For captaincy or place or both?

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  54. No room for can ?..….

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  55. He wouldn't be my answer there and I m hoping we keep Lucas and bring a specialist but to say Milner will have the same issues as Gerrard is ignoring what Gerrards issues were and what qualities Milner has. Ideal no.

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  56. You missed a trick you forgot Clouseau,I am referencing IA and not BR?

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  57. That could have been used to go try and sign a prolific goal scorer?


    Now we also might get Ings for 'free'.


    Ambition at the highest level...

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  58. That is the case even if there is a fee.

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  59. Rodgers has never been interested in DM. If it was otherwise then he would have signed one by now. Lucas may as well pack his bags if Rodgers escapes the ax as Rodgers has shown time and time again that Lucas is not in his plans.


    So it will be between Allen, Milner or Hendo marshaling our midfield. Be afraid, be very afraid.

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  60. What is your point?

    Free transfer means, players contract ends and he is free to look for a new club.

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  61. I think he saw in the run that Lucas had how much he gives to the team. If he hadn't been injured I don't think he would have been dropped. Allen too stopped getting played there. Perhaps too slowly but Rodgers may have learned a couple of lessens there.

    As for buying a DM, it is one of his blind spots. Hopefully the Lucas period showed what we need. Also we don't know what the result of the review was.

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  62. I reckon Illarramendi is the type of DM Rodgers would like. He's not your run around wildly breaking up play like Mascherano or Nigel De Jong was. He's more of a playmaker (quarterback type) but good defensively too like Alonso and Carrick. Very much like the role Gerrard was playing in 2013/14 when we nearly won the league

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  63. I know what it means but a free signing is still muh cheaper than one were a fee, agents fees and signing on fee are paid.

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  64. Which player is going to bomb balls forward without a combination of a fully fit Sturridge and a magician like Suarez which is exactly what Gerrard did.


    The system we played in 2013/14 is history.

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  65. "I'm not speaking to anyone at the moment because I'm under contract, but I am looking around, given I am not playing," Lucas told Radio Marca.

    "There was contact with Napoli last summer, but the parties didn't reach a satisfactory agreement. The situation at Napoli was not advantageous for everyone but despite that, I know Rafa Benítez has always had a lot of faith in me.

    "I want to play but at the same time, I need to be patient. I need to find a solution, be it at Liverpool or some other club. In the past there were rumours linking me to Atlético Madrid, but there was nothing concrete.

    "I must think about leaving as there is no room for me at Liverpool."



    He is not in Rodgers plans. End of.

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  66. When did he say that?

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  67. Google...


    "I must think about leaving as there is no room for me at Liverpool."



    And you will find all the articles obout the interview towards the end of last year.

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  68. 23 October 2014 before the run of games I was refffering to.

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  69. 4 LFC players start for England ( If we include Sterling ;-)

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  70. Ings would be a better rotation option than either Borini or Origi.
    But if we're worried about spending money, then Gignac is the player we should be going for on a free. He's in his prime good, in the air, good with the ball on the ground, can play out wide and will harry defenders.
    In the last three years he's got 50 goals in 103 league games improving each year

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  71. Big problem as I see it is the Rodgers situation both from the owners and prospective players coming in ..... FSG want to see
    if Rodgers is capable of turning things around without giving him too much money as they have burnt fingers from before . Also money has to be available for the new manager if / when he comes in .... In the position we are in at present we are limited in attracting so called 'Marquee players " to the club !

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  72. It depends on how much the signing on fee plus agent fees are. Signing on fee plus agent fee plus performance bonuses and hefty wage a week, this is already a very expensive signing.

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  73. In the first 18 games in all comps Lucas started 5 and was a sub 3 times. In the next 20 up to getting injured against Everton he started 17 and was a sub twice in all comps. That run.

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  74. Well we don't know any of the other fees compared to other players.

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  75. Again were back to people talking about making "Marquee signing"

    You say Liverpool are still capable of attracting big players, yet 25 years and 180 players says were not and haven't been for a long time.

    You can point out players Alonso, Reina, Mach, Hyyia, Agger Torres etc but you could argue that they were not considered "Marquee signing" but good players who were playing for mid to top table teams who had huge potential.



    That is what as a club we have been doing for decades now.


    Money does talk first, absolutely but so does being in the CL and to some extent who the manager is.


    When comparing us to the likes of Man Utd, Arsenal, Chelsea, Man City and other clubs around Europe we can not compete.


    We do not have the same level of finances, do not have CL football and do not have a manager with a reputation outside of England.


    What we need to do is done what we have been doing for decades now, find good players are mid - top table teams and make then great players.


    The problem is I do not believe for minute that BR is capable of that.

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  76. Muhammad Ibrahim1:30 pm, June 07, 2015

    I think we might be fighting relegation with such strategy. We need a strong mobile midfield and obviously footballing ability. For the last 2 seasons despite the comedy of errors in defense, our defense has had little to no protection most especially from CM positions. Most teams with some pace when they try to attack direct or quickly are getting to our defender far too easily. Our defenders most of the time see opposition players running at them with their fellow team mates someone like Gerrard (great player but BR does not know how to use him, in this stage of his career) trying to catch up in the background.

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  77. So how can it be said then that signing a free agent is cheaper than a normal transfer as their are too many variables like the experience of the player, what is his market value, is he an International etc.

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  78. You mean in how they reflect those other hidden fees? I supposed we don't know. We can always assume the worst though hey?!

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  79. We have spent over £210m in 3 seasons, and saying a marquee signing doesn't mean a Messi or a Ronaldo as that is unrealistic and most fans are very much aware of that being 'living in a dream world' when I say a Marquee signing I mean a Lacazette, Depay, Yarmolenko all players with a good reputation but we tend to aim even lower and strangely pay far more for the player and I agree totally that Brendan is a major problem him along with the comitee are wasting money left, right and centre £210m+ of it by the way and on mostly players that are mid table players so it's a false economy as hardly any have achieved anything or fitted in! It is not Liverpool Football Club that is the issue we are a huge club regardless of CL football but it's the lack of ambition and the fact the board and Rodgers haven't got a clue that is the problem! I was and still feel Rodgers is lucky to be in a job and was and still am all for him to getting the boot as it's like the (Liverpool) being the QE2 and it being captianed by Mr. Magoo. The ship is legendry and everyone would love to go on it but who wants to ride on a ship captained by a blind man? Give me a huge wage and i'd take my chances...

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  80. So called 'Marquee' is a player the realistic fans want to see at the club the likes of Lacazette, Yarmolenko etc my perception of Marquee is not the same as Real Madrid, Barcelona, Man Utd, Chelsea etc it is based on what I believe the club can bring in and being realistic about it..We have spent over £210m+ so we have had the funds to create a far better squad than what we have now and I agree totally Rodgers is a major problem but not just Rodgers alone the comittee are failing as aren't they the ones who say YES and NO to any players Rodgers points them in the direction off and sanction it?

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  81. Also where did you get that apearence sheet? Looks like an easier way than I did.

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  82. The LFC history website.

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  83. You do realize he isn't talking about players costing +50m. Players like Suarez, brought in for around 23m, is the type of player we need.


    When you go into the market and look for what you need, and what fits your team, is when you'll find results, hence why last season we were carried so hard.


    And the best part about it is that you only need to bring in one of those, because soon enough, players like Sterling & Sturridge will perform just as well as they did last season.


    So I personally believe that someone like Reus or Aubameyang would fit into our club like a tetris block. They have got the experience, while being relatively young, quick attacking superstars, while being clinical and able to shoot from anywhere.


    To me those would both be marquee signings. Now if FSG wasn't as blind to see that bringing in Klopp could give Liverpool a wildcard (being the only team with a german manager who has recently managed in a german team), we could have potentially gone in for any of these players.


    But hey, by all means we can stick to signings like Ings and Milner if it means we will attract top players like Delph, Jamie Vardy, Tom huddlestone and much much more of these prized English icons BR relishes

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  84. Cost has nothing to do with it but players of the calibre of Reus can play for any team in the world so why would they play for a team that is not in the CL?

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  85. That's why I said we should have brought in Klopp. Reus is basically his love child, same way Allen is with BR. If by all means Reus or even Aubameyang didn't want to sign, we would have the advantage of access to the whole Bundesliga, something not many in the PL have.

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  86. I know that is not what you mean but even players like Lacazette and Depay are good enough to play for teams that are in the CL.

    Lets use Depay for example, if we had bid for him do you honestly believe he would chose Utd over us?

    Lacazette is a world class player, I would love him at Liverpool but if he has the choice between Liverpool and a team in the CL where do you think he will go?

    We are in the same position at Spurs, look at the players they have signed over the last 5 years.

    Those players are in our catchment. Players like Eriksen, Lamela, Lloris. Those were players we should of gone for.



    Great players who can improve our team.

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  87. It's reported that City wanted him on 165K a week, which is still more than that 150K.

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  88. It doesn't mean we shouldn't at least try it's called ambition but it is not totally unrealistic to assume we couldn't at least have a shot at the likes of Reus, he could play for the big boys but as it stands he doesn't so until he does then we should show ambition and at least try but without offering an offensively low amount in the process

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  89. As good as klopp might be, he does not perform miracles.


    If he was that good he would of been able to keep players at Dortmund instead of them leaving to go to Bayern.

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  90. Now we hit a problem. Look at Sanchez. We all knew he was never going to sign for us but we tried and BR was hammered for trying to sign him.


    Look at other players we have tried to sign only for them to sign for other clubs above us. Again BR has been criticised for this.

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  91. NonEventHorizon2:38 pm, June 07, 2015

    Scooby Doo?

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  92. The problem when signing any 30 year old is they tend to be on a downward curve ,my worry onmilner is games are built on industry more than skill or vision and he could well be finished at 32 .....it looks like I'm giving him a bad time but for me he will be under pressure to win matches and he hasn't got that in his locker

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  93. So Lacazette would be your 'Marquee Signing' That is exactly what I've said in 'Great players who can improve our team' I used Lacazette and Depay as examples I could have used a hundred more and the likes of Eriksen, Lamela and Lloris are perfect examples some of which had CL football before they moved. the sway was a fairly hefty price tag and heafty wage coupled with a declaration of ambition and a manager with the sell

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  94. I really couldn't begin to wrap my head around the fact that Klopp had beaten Real Madrid in 2013 with a side that wouldn't have even been considered to pass through the quarter finals before CL, to get into the finals.


    If that right there isn't a miracle, then nearly beating Bayern Munich should definitely have been.


    A manager who treats his club like family and still has fans packed into stadiums supporting him says a lot about the guy himself.


    Now, give him the benefit of having a higher budget to work with and being able to attract Bundesliga players to Liverpool and I think he would demolish BR in terms of success here.

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  95. I agree and your opinion is a valid one but he's not a bad player and should bring some much needed experience to the team. If you asked me should we have signed him and payed him £130'000 a week or whatever it is I would have said not a chance or if I was asked should we have signed him then in all honesty I would have said no..Will he make that much difference to our league position probably not..Thats why I say it lack ambition

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  96. If I was FSG I would target Higuaín. If we want anything close to what we had with Suarez then he would be the player to get. Not much going for him at Napoli either. Lethal finisher.

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  97. Some do not understand how very good Klopp is. Lets ask Brendan to go replicate the success Klopp did at Dortmund. Cough cough.

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  98. We seem to be looking at solid players who will put a shift in rather than match winners

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  99. So what.. look what Rafa did with us. He took an average team and won the CL.


    Did we go out and sign World Class Players, No.


    Again, after everything Klopp did at Dortmund he was still unable to stop his best players leaving.


    So your argument that if we had signed as our manager then players would be tripping over themselves to sign for us is false.

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  100. Pretty much but then isn't that what we need at the moment.


    When you look at our squad other then Henderson who else is there?


    Look at Chelsea, they have a squad full of players who you could call solid with the added addition of 3 -4 game winners.


    As a squad we are missing steal, strength, players who will do all the carrying to allow the creative players to play.


    If there was ever a team that needed some steal it was us.


    I don't think that Milner will provide although I do like him and he will make a good addition.

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  101. I may be wrong but surely klopp has more appeal thanrodgers especially on the continental market

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  102. I am not saying that Klopp is not a better manager then BR, however it has already been proven that he couldn't stop his best players leaving.


    So if he could not stop his own players from leaving for their major rivals, basically it would be like our best players leaving to join Man Utd, how is he going to convince players who can play CL football for other teams to ignore them and play for us?


    Yes he did well at Dortmund, how he will do in another league remains to be seen, however the guy can not perform miracles.

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  103. Realistically, I think Pogba is too high profile for Liverpool and well beyond our resources, ditto Gundogan. Kondogbia might be a more rational target. Saints reportedly want upwards of £25 million for Schneiderlin, which is too much. He'd be a worthy addition, but I don't think my pride can withstand another summer being taken to the cleaners by Southampton.

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  104. Pretty much but then isn't that what we need at the moment.

    When you look at our squad other then Henderson who else is there?

    Look at Chelsea, they have a squad full of players who you could call solid with the added addition of 3 - 4 game winners.

    As a squad we are missing steal, strength, players who will do all the carrying to allow the creative players to play.

    If there was ever a team that needed some steal it was us.

    I don't think that Milner will provide although I do like him and he will make a good addition.

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  105. It has got nothing to do with performing miracles. Klopp is a winner and also proven he has what it takes to make it in Europe.


    Having Klopp would make LFC chances of signing better players infinitely easier. I highly doubt you will see a player like Ings joining if Klopp had to take over.

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  106. Fine, example to me how this amazing manager was not able to keep his best players?


    Explain to me why the great manager consistently lost his best players to their main rivals?

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  107. We're in complete agreement. The Phantom Menace is utter horse shit.

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  108. The pod race was alright.

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  109. All Klopp needs to do is show any prospects his CV. Oh wait, I am pretty sure most players know what Dortmund have achieved in Klopp's tenure over there.

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  110. Still waiting for you to explain if he was so good why he couldn't stop his best players leaving and joining their rivals

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  111. I just wanted to give that young actor a good slap. Annoying little *****

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  112. Which players were they?

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  113. haha.. typical Logan. As soon as somebody asks a question you cant answer you play games and act as a child.


    Not even going to bother.

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  114. Look mate, my 9 year old son could have answered that question.


    Which club did they go to?

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  115. I think there were fleeting moments that recaptured some of the old magic (usually in the scenes without the abysmal dialogue); I also quite enjoyed the final light sabre duel. The trilogy just proved to me what I already knew: Lucas is an ideas man, but he really should have let someone else direct.

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  116. Yeah all the sabre battels in the trilogy were decent.

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  117. And I wanted to take a chainsaw to Binks, and every other Gungan in existence.

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  118. BR has a defensive record at Liverpool that I worse than Hodgson and souness. Next year will be no change. He is tactically inept and will be found out yet again

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  119. Lets hope the new coaching staff can help with that.

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  120. A new trilogy of Star Wars movies are coming.Starting with Star Wars: The Force Awakens this december.The trailers look good.J.J Abrams is taking over from George Lucas.Abrams track record includes the last two movies in the Star Trek franchise (which were both very good) so i expect much better than the last 3 Star Wars movies.

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  121. In which case in I suggest you let your 9 yr old son take over as I am sure he is more capable of having a adult conversion then you.

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  122. So Gotze and Lewandowski who both went to Bayern.


    So with your logic, the fact that Ronaldo and Tevez who are world class players left UTD suggests that Fergie cannot could not convince his best players to stay?

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  123. Before long all he will be doing is his outstanding press conferences ....

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  124. Money talks and Dortmund needed it its not Rocket Science

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  125. Yet it had nothing to do with the club needing money.

    Both players refused to sign new contracts and wanted to leave.

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  126. 150k/week...James Milner...potential captain of the first team...replace SG as the sole 'world class player' (wage suggested so)...I can't do anything except endless sighing...where the heck are we heading towards? EPL champion? Top 4? UCL?

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  127. Yeah I have greater hopes for the new films (now Lucas is no longer involved). Abrams will have a greater handle on the need to satisfy the original fan-base, and his successful, respectful reboot of the Star Trek franchise bodes well for Star Wars. Plus the involvement of Lawrence Kasdan (co-writer on Empire) is reason to be optimistic.

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  128. Go see my answer. Waiting for you logical reply.

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  129. Fergie refused to spend the money needed on tevez who wanted to stay at Utd.

    Also Fergie convinced Ronaldo to stay an extra season at Utd and he did.

    Neither of the dortmund players wanted to stay and klopp was unable to convince them.

    So again why did they want to leave and why couldn't klopp convince them to sray.

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  130. Typical answer, Ronaldo could have stayed on and won many more trophies with UTD. They could have offered him any wage he wanted.


    If a player wants to leave, he will leave. It happens at all clubs and if you want to deny that then so be it.

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  131. You're right, Lucas is a creative genius, but he's a s*** director and screenwriter. Anakin's dialogue was excruciatingly dry and lame. A 12 year old could have written it.

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  132. It did have! They got a bigger wage and Dortmund got paid well Lewandowksi moved on a free granted but Gotze was sold for around £35m. Bigger teams always will take the best players around from most teams to say Klopp is a less of a manager in not stopping them leaving is wrong, the difference between Klopp and Rodgers is Klopp buys well and win trophies but when the inevitable happens and the big boys come knocking for a player Klopp makes a profit. He has managed to keep Reus, Gundogan, Hummels, Subotic to name a few and made money on Kagawa, Gotze, the team that beat Real 4-1 was essembled for £40m less than Lallana and Balotelli...They are facts that can't be escaped or denied in no way am I insinuating Klopp would just walk in to the job and like magic we start winning trophies but Rodgers is not in the same league as Klopp

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  133. It's not typical, it's fact. Both Ronaldo and Fergie have talked about it. Sorry you used two bad examples.

    You still haven't explained why klopp was unable to convince 2 of his best players to stay and why he was unable to convince Reus to stay.

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  134. Seems like you and me have the same opinion so be careful, Ghost Rider is going to say you reply in a childish manner.

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  135. Convinced Reus to stay who signed a new contract with Dortmund in Feb this year?


    Should I ask my 9 year old son to take over from here as he is having a good chuckle.

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  136. Rues is leaving this season and so is hummers along with another player.

    Again I have said a number of times Klopp is a very good manager however even as you said, even klopp can't keep players when a bigger team comes knocking.

    Now dortmund have been a lot more successful then Liverpool in recent years and performed a lot better in europe.

    So how do you expect him to sign so called elite or marquee players for us, a team a lot less successful then dortmund.

    Wold he do better then BR, of course, would he be able to buy players who historically we have always struggled to sign even when we were CL champions.. no

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  137. Sadly he's also a genius when it comes to butchering his own good work. Just f*cking leave it alone, Lucas. A case in point.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3u70WELSEg

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  138. So if Gotze signed a new contract in March 2012 it does not mean a manager is convincing? Gotze left in 2013.


    Really, I do not know where you are going with this.

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  139. And then blame the new coaching staff when he fails again.

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  140. Who said anything about elite that's a word reserved for the Messi's and Ronalado's? Marquee is a different thing 'Marquee' is just a large tent used for weddings and bar mitzvah's in theory who we choose to host underneath it is a matter of opinion, sometimes people are unrealistic about who we should sign under our 'Marquee' but you can't tell me in all honesty that the players we have signed where the best we could get? That's where a proven manager with the charisma and know how comes in to get the best we can get under that 'Marquee' and Rodgers Marquee Signings have failed to get the party started.

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  141. I agree we need that constantly busy "Suarez" type forward. Hopefully that will be sorted this summer too

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  142. In what way were we average? We finished 4th in the league before Benitez came, we had a pretty hefty squad to say.


    Xabi Alonso, one of our key players that year. Why would he have signed under Houllier? Is it a mere coincidence that Benitez and Alonso are both Spanish? How about Torres?


    If Klopp came, what if he signed Reus? Would BR have done that?


    And please don't say ''He wasn't able to keep his best players from leaving''.


    Is Wenger a bad manager because he couldn't stop RVP from leaving? Fabregas?


    ''Players would be tripping over themselves to sign for us''


    Never said that. But given the connection between someone like Reus and Dortmund, and his respect for Klopp, I certainly think he would give it a long hard thought.

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  143. He played the holding role in every CL game this season, and play as a CM about half a dozen times in the league. And it's irrelevant anyway as in the 3-4-3 system we don deploy a specialist holding player

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  144. Cannon, you are completely correct. Instead of a gang of mediocrity, bring in 4-5 real impact players and fill in with our kids and nuke all our deadwood. Fiscally sound but aiming higher than the Delph's, ing's of the world. The club hasn't been a real power for twenty years and the last moment of true glory was Istanbul in 2005. That was ages ago and all us fans deserve much better........
    outs
    Balotelli,Borini, Aspas, Alberto, Enrique, Johnson, Allen, lambert, Coates, and either Lallana or Markovic (your choice)
    In
    J. Martinez, Vietto, Lacazette. ( any two please)Jovetic as number three in case Daniel can't come back healthy..good teams have four striker threats to handle tournaments
    Either Lars bender or William Carvalho as a big boy DM
    Two attackers that can beat someone 1-1,work their socks off, and give a great pass (unlike Markovic or Allen)

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