12 Jun 2015

Priority Signing? Liverpool in contact with 'world-class' €26m playmaker who wants transfer back to the Prem

In November 2014, Reds legend Jan Molby urged Brendan Rodgers to'seriously consider' making a move for France international Yohann Cabaye, and new reports this week suggest that the PSG midfielder is back on Liverpool's transfer radar.

According to The Mirror:

"Liverpool and Tottenham are among the clubs that have been contacted by intermediaries offering Cabaye’s services, but have priority targets to address before trying to strike a deal".

In a recent interview with L'Equipe, allegedly 'World class' Cabaye admitted that he is 'unhappy' at PSG, and when asked on Thursday about his future, he made it clear that he wants a return to the Premier League:

"If I get the chance to return to England, I hope everyone will be intelligent enough to do things well. I know if I stay [at PSG], nothing will change".

Liverpool legend Steve Nicol is no fan of Cabaye, and when asked in December to name the worst transfer of 2014, he told ESPN:

"Worst transfer of 2014? I'd go for Yohann Cabaye at Paris St. Germain. He cost €26m with add-ons, and he doesn't get a game".

In my view, that's extremely harsh - Man United's Luke Shaw is a bigger waste of money (IMO), and Balotelli, Lallana, Lovren, and Markovic can't be far behind.

Liverpool fans certainly don't agree with Nicol. Midway through last season, I conducted a poll on the site asking if the Reds should sign Cabaye to replace Gerrard, and 79% of participants voted YES to bringing the 29-year old to Anfield.

If Liverpool really pushed, the deal is seemingly there for the taking, but is Cabaye the answer? He's clearly having a torrid time at PSG, and this is reflected in his creative stats for the season:

* 2 goals/1 assist in 36 appearances.
* One goal all season in the league.

Cabaye made only 13 league starts all season, but was subbed-off in 85% of those games (11 out of 13 apps). The rest of the time, he's been a perennial sub and/or an unused substitute, so Cabaye's figures are not really indicative of his overall quality.

In many cases, it's impossible for a player to perform effectively if he isn't given the requisite game time, and Cabaye has clearly suffered from being a bit-part player at PSG.



That said, Cabaye never managed more than 7 league goals a season at Newcastle, so he's not a prolific goalscoring midfielder anyway, which is what Liverpool need right now.

Additionally, Cabaye is 29, so if Liverpool sign him, How many great years will the club get out of him, and if the fee is over €20m (which it's probably likely to be) is it really worth it?

When it comes to goals/assists (i.e. specific, measurable, creative impact), Cabaye's record is slighty superior James Milner's:

* Cabaye: 21 goals/18 assists (39) in 150 games for Newcastle and PSG (Goal every 7.1 games | goal/assist every 3.8 games).

* Milner: 30 goals/57 assists in 337 games for Newcastle and Man City (Goal every 11.2 games | goal/assist every 3.9 games).

Jordan Henderson's record is worse than both, and Liverpool cannot (IMO) sustain THREE central midfielders who fail to score goals regularly.

Still, for a cut-price fee of £10m or less, Cabaye might be worth a punt...

Author: Jaimie K



186 comments:

  1. Would prefer Kovacic to Cabaye for sure..

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  2. By now we should have had a squad that could win trophies 10 times over yet none of them have signed. This" trying to get ahead of the rest" starting to get rediculous! It's time to ask the question if FSG have a plan to send us forward or not? Is BR the man to take us forward or not? Why two assistant coaches get fired and the man responsible is still staying? In NFL you can fire the defensive coach or offensive coach because they are responsible for a specific area of the team. In football how is that possible??? Somebody help me, PLEASE!!!

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  3. How many midfielders do we actually need

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  4. To play in all 11 positions on the pitch. I reckon that is what Rodgers is aiming for.

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  5. Cabaye would bring experience and has proven himself in the league.


    Kovacic is a talented player but being young, new country, not sure he speaks english and needs to adapt to the EPL.


    I would much rather go for Cabaye.

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  6. Mate, what are your thoughts on Bogdan?? I seriously cannot believe people are trying to justify this signing.. Which other top team signs a player from the Championship?

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  7. Mate I really do not know what is becoming of this club. Leeds springs to mind.

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  8. I totally agree Pascoe & Marsh seem to have been made scapegoats but how stupid do FSG think the fans are? The blame lays at the feet of Rodgers as coaches operate on the instruction of the manager, Rodgers was quoted when we nearly won the league as saying" it is down to the hard work of the coaching staff and players" so finish 6th and continue to sign misfits and under-performers that also must be 'down to the coaching staff and players' he mustn't include himself in the equation when he is the man who decides on the majority of issues that concern the team

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  9. The club is showing no balls and a clear lack direction. Make sure you keep you expectations to the bare minimum for this coming season.

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  10. a lot of SNIPING at BR on here.

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  11. As long as it does not involve his teeth or personal life then Jaimie says it is ok.

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  12. I do not reply to faceless keyboard warriors. For future reference.

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  13. Pretty stupid considering how most eat up everything the club does an are blinded by bias. Any other institute and BR would have been sacked immediately after the Stoke game maybe even at half time and I am not even talking about the countless other failures. By making everything seem rosy, the club is changing.

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  14. Surely if given the option between someone who is arguably past his peak and would have limited affect on the team given the amount of midfielders we have, and a young exciting prospect who may not make an immediate impact, but has time on his side and the potential to vastly exceed the quality and impact of the aforementioned older player, as well as being tested on the 'bigger stages' such as Europe and internationally to a similar extent to the older player, you would take the prospect everytime?

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  15. Cabaye past his peak? That means David Silva is cripple?


    How many prospects have we signed and where are they at the moment?


    Cabaye is a proper CM and would put all of our current midfielders to shame.

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  16. Is he free ? Then yes,.........

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  17. I totally agree with you jk for 10'million or under i think cabaye would be worth a punt, but first we really do need to get shot of all the dead wood in the squad. I also believe if we got of shot of rodgers and brought in klopp, that some of our signings from last year and were played in their natural positions we could save alot of money (imo).

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  18. I am a fifth generation Liverpool supporter and loyal to the core, I am off the age I used to stand in the old kop as a boy, but I look at it this way..If you didn't do your job properly and wasted all the companys cash would you still be in a job? Not a chance! Rodgers isn't managing Liverpool out of the goodness of his heart he gets paid and gets paid well to do so, my loyalty lays with the club not Rodgers! As managers come and go and if they are not doing the job to the standards expected he should not be there..If he was then why did FSG sack Pascoe & Marsh and why do they not trust him in the transfer market and get rid off this transfer comittee if FSG can't give Rodgers 100% trust then why should we?

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  19. Silva and Cabaye are the exact same age so that first point is redundant. Added to the fact that Silva is still performing to an extremely high level, and Cabaye, whilst not playing a lot, has not demonstrated any sort of quality whilst at PSG.

    How many experienced premises players have we signed and where are they now?
    Lallana - blighted by injury but still ineffective when played.
    Lovren - disaster.
    Balotelli - disaster.
    Lambert - poor.
    Downing - disaster.
    Joe Cole - disaster.
    Glen Johnson - disaster.
    Etc etc etc.
    Prospects may not have the desired impact but they at least have many years on their side to turn around any poor start to their careers that may occur.

    Cabaye is a decent player, he is not an improvement on either Henderson or Milner, bar his set piece ability.
    Kovacic has incredible amounts of potential and having watched him in the Europa League and for Croatia a few times he will be ready to compete for a starting spot immediately, and would thus be an infinitely better signing than Cabaye.

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  20. One question I have to ask mate - when has a club ever sacked just the assistant mangers and never the actual man in charge. It is just weird and smacks of deception. Who are they trying to trick with this? They just sacked the coaches to make it seem like they are actually changing something when the structure probably looks to be the same considering the bang average or even below average signings coming into the club. Pascoe and Marsh mean nothing - they were just removed to make it feel like a big deal and to absolve accountability in the establishment.

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  21. Well said mate the truth hurts some people on here, im with bud experience over potential all day long.

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  22. Logan cut it out! Get off Kova's case ;)

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  23. That is your opinion of course.


    Cabaye was on his way to Arsenal not so long ago. He is a quality player and there is no way Henderson IMO is on the same level.


    Potential for us = mega bucks = risk which has been demonstrated time and time agian.


    Cabaye for a reported £10m and you want to argue with me?

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  24. I am not on his case. Many are setting him up for failure.

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  25. I know. So let's not let them

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  26. Did you just say that?

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  27. Yes however the 'Silva cripple' reference clearly has no logic behind it (obviously an exaggeration, but i digress), and as as you've stated our opinions evidently are different.


    However, granted Inter Milan are no longer the force they once were, but he has racked up 79 appearances for them in the past two seasons from the ages of 19-21, as well as 20 appearances for the Croatian national team - clearly he has a bit of quality about him.
    Yes potential is always a large risk, but as demonstrated by those players that we've signed that were 'premier league proven', any signing for us it a huge risk.


    And yes because I don't rate Cabaye particularly highly. £10m is fairly reasonably, granted, but I don't see what he will add to the team, so any fee in my opinion is too much for him.

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  28. FSG want BR gone but they don't want to pay him off.
    Part of me wants BR to turn things around and to be seen as a top manager again as he was the season before last. Then for him to stick two fingers up to FSG and move to another club when his contract runs out.

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  29. Well I guess we have to agree to disagree then.

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  30. I still think he'll get the sack mate something just doesn't seem right about all what's happening at the club. Three free transfers in and not a word from rodgers on these signings, it's a really strange situation our clubs in at moment.

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  31. I am not sure it would be a case of not wanting to pay him out.


    If they have gotten rid of CP and MM and Rodgers is on 'holiday' being asked to zip it then who says FSG are not still looking around or currently negotiating with his replacement?


    Anything is possible in the current state of silence.

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  32. It is pretty unpresidented that the assistant manager and coach are sacked and the manager is still in a job, I can't recall anything like it as hard as I try to.

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  33. it is very strange to be honest

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  34. And there are people who are actually trying to pin our failures on Pascoe and Marsh as if it was their inexperience that made us lose 6-1 to Stoke - it is amazing what a bit of PR can do to public opinion..

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  35. If that is the case I am surprised word has not leaked out but it might be that they have it nailed down.


    Whatever happens FSG will get their way and BR is gone

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  36. It is not out of the question that Rodgers is on gardening leave which means he has no choice but to shut it.


    We all know he is the media darling.Why so silent?

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  37. How have the signings happened without Rodgers if that is the case - what is going on at this club???

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  38. We have 4 other members on the transfer committee. Nothing stops.

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  39. I would love to know though who is deciding how the team will play and therefore what players we need. Who is making the football decisions?

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  40. That is ridiculous anyone who knows anything about football must know it's all down to Sterling.

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  41. FSG have advisers.Who they are and what their qualifications are is anyone's guess.

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  42. Odd I completely disagree.

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  43. Dirty player.......;-)

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  44. Watching Croatia vs. Italy, how I would have loved a certain Darijo Srna over Johnson... we never sign the right players for our money.

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  45. Good game isn't it? Bit weird not to have a crowd there though.

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  46. I have long suspected that the tea lady knows more than she is letting on

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  47. chelski are after Austin apparently.

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  48. It's not unusual to change the coaching team whilst keeping the head coach. Ferguson used to do it all the time. We're just not used to it at Liverpool with the boot room tradition I guess.

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  49. Do you really think BR was OK with Pascoe going?

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  50. Yup, the Croatia goal was a tad funny but Candreva did a Pirlo-esque Panenka;-) they were banned or something for the home matches? since there's virtually no one there!

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  51. I really cannot see it happening unless they are trying to fill the home grown quota.

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  52. What boot room tradition? It no longer exists.

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  53. If you framed that differently I would respond to you, but it just feels like baiting to be honest and I'm not interested.

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  54. On another note, I see Aspas has joined Celta again, thats the good news.

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  55. When Roy Evans left the boot room was dismantled.

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  56. Hopefully on a permanent basis?

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  57. Pretty much this.

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  58. Where do they keep their bootees now then?

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  59. Funny thing is he had a great season. Back in Feb his goals per minutes was better then Ronaldo

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  60. Stuart, I don't know what to think. I'm partly relieved because Pascoe never struck me as... you know. You *know*. And I wouldn't mind if Rodgers was being ruthless because it would be about time. Being prepared to be an arse is a good quality in a boss. But... hmm.

    No, I'm out of my depth here, just don't know how to read it. Could be Rodgers finally growing up. Could be Rodgers being taken out of the firing line. Could be Rodgers being very slowly sacked. At least we seem to be doing some sort of business all the same. What do you reckon?

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  61. Could be I guess, fair point.

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  62. Seems like it. One down...

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  63. He's also a very good player, just doesn't fit in the premier league...

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  64. Will fight tooth and nails for my favourites ;)

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  65. His partner in crime for how long? Doubt it.

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  66. 20 more to go

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  67. Yes, but for much the greater part of my life as a Liverpool supporter, Liverpool was synonymous with stability behind the scenes -- the last 10 years haven't quite dislodged that yet. Reality can take a while to sink in.

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  68. Watching wales vs belgium joe allan still passing back and sideways. How this guy made it as a footballer god only knows, he's absolutely shocking. Should be the first player we let go this summer and use the money to buy cabaye. Lol

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  69. Don't be so ridiculous, go to your room at once, your grounded.

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  70. for what sum?;-) don't give me the crap Logan!

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  71. Fallows and Hunter presumably.

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  72. Yes, they have opponents named Hospitalet in Copa del Rey which he showed his ruthless attacking prowess !

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  73. Yeah it's a fixture with a bit of history! Sort of game I would love to attend one day to be honest. No one does *intense* like Serbs and Croatians!

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  74. haha its like they don't care about the match passionate so passionate';)

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  75. It has been far more than 10 years since there has been stability behind the scenes. Moores is to blame for a major part of the decline. This club has been falling season by season since the last time we won the title.

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  76. I don't know either but I fear it's FSG trying to make BR's position untenable to avoid paying him off or at least to weaken his resolve and then negotiate a lesser leaving payment.


    Having said that I cannot understand who is taking the decisions on what players to get It's very odd.

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  77. Never been a fan of the guy,hes not as good he thinks he is ,he shone in parts at Newcastle because they are garbage

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  78. We'll lose as it seems... :/ But what do u think of Kova does he put his critics to bed?

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  79. He's a little cutie is what he is.

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  80. Because our hooligans made trouble when we played Italy on San Siro (sigh), what would we give for a Margaret Thatcher ;)

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  81. Could be but they should be doing the manager's bidding so perhaps BR is staying - my head hurts

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  82. You Croat pal?)

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  83. Wash your mouth out! :)

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  84. Yep buddy, been asked that a lot here :)

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  85. Maybe just for what she did to hooligans- everything else is in excess :)

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  86. Sorry to miss that, I love everything about your country!
    also, what a mean and balanced side you have, the chances are quite high you set the Euros on fire!

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  87. Until they meet England

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  88. Hahha if u wanna talk intense we did go to war with one another some 20 years before it doesnt get any more intense than that- but I really like my fellow Serbs, Belgrade is capital of night life on Balkans

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  89. Hhahaa and then we eliminate England- oops that was with other manager what was his name ;)

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  90. haaahaaaa btw lol is a moderation word here!

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  91. Midfield trio of Kova-Rakitic-Brozovic it's just our defense lets us down- and Lovren doesnt play dunno if that's good or bad ;)

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  92. haaahaaaa btw lo l is a moderation word on this sitte!

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  93. I didn't even know he had any critics!

    I think Croatia are a really good side generally, and I like their spirit and style. Watching Inter this season to spy on Kovacic I started to really like Brozovic -- not the most technical player, but he works so hard... Kova is pure quality, no worries there. Olic looks a bit old though.

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  94. Also Modric, Subasic, Mandzukic, Srna you have some top top players (yes, I'm not Brendan Rodgers)

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  95. Obviously we are all giving our best guesses and yours is likely correct but what if Pascoe and Marsh were legitimately sacked/persuaded to leave, due to some kind of gross misconduct that we know nothing about and BR was not party to.
    It is still a possibility, albeit maybe with a touch of wishful thinking, that Brendan could be retaining his position with FSG's blessing and thus transfers have continued accordingly.

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  96. Austria is going to shock some in the Euros trust me mate ;-)

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  97. hahahaa outstanding ;) they are a bit out of steam I dunno whats going on- I would even trade Kovac the manager for Rodgers, that's how much I value him :(

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  98. Illaramendi, kondogbia or Carvalho for me. Bring more balance to midfield.

    Guess who we get will give us a clue as to who is leaving from our midfielders. I've a feeling it'll be Lucas although I think that would be a mistake

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  99. Marcelo Brozovic is a beast somewhat in Scwinsteiger mould, he can do it all, he really gives sturdiness to our side

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  100. Yeah everything is scared of facing England and it's unlimited strikepower in raheem sterling

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  101. Heh. I am going to resist going down this particular rabbit hole I think.

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  102. Believe it or not that thought crossed my mind but as you say it is just too fanciful

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  103. Lucas is most likely to leave.

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  104. I actually cheer for Austria I quite often come to Wien for visiting my brother, hope to go to Ernsthappelstadion one day!

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  105. agreed, we need a proper DM

    I'd like to add Kramer and Bender to your list

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  106. Does he play inside sometimes then? I've only seen him on the right. Interesting to think of him as a central player, he's very energetic... somewhat more like Henderson than Schweini tho :)

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  107. DM? Not in BR's vocabulary.

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  108. It's not a special stadium and the Austrian league is awful, but the national team is doing a really good job at the moment, can't wait for the game against Russia

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  109. If it is a tactic from FSG to force his hand, it's devilishly cruel, because the more you think it through - he's absolutely been backed into a corner from which escape may be impossible, not sure I like that at all, guess it's how the big bad business world operates though.
    Clarification a bit lively would be the ticket.

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  110. Oh common man it is , Torres won the euros for Spain there;-) apart from Alaba, who else do you think stands out in the team?

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  111. Since 2013 beating Croatia at football has become a prime national objective, like free universal healthcare, keeping the Falkland Islands British, and maintaining Jeremy Clarkson in work. We will not be denied.

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  112. Who needs a DM if you have the Welsh xabi.

    It's actually quite funny that every player that likes to play defensive midfield is played out of position most of the time (lucas as CM last season and Can as a CB) just for Gerrard to be as ineffective as he could be as a DM

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  113. Yep which leaves us no defensive midfielder unless he's going to play Can there. I like Can but not quick enough over first 5 yards for defensive mid?

    Still find it strange we're in for kovacic. Surely another forward, left back, right back and defensive mid is where any cash should be going

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  114. Difference is that Fergie made those decisions, not made for him.

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  115. Naingolan great shout although as per my suggestions probably unrealistic

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  116. Top midfield anchorman and striker high priority.


    Milner, Bogdan, Ings...

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  117. Milan with no CL football and more fun to follow, even no Manager! bought Jackson for 35m. Now, don't give me the known manager excuse!!!!

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  118. Do AC Milan not have a Director of Football?

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  119. All they have at the moment is Galliani, Berlusconi and Bee!

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  120. The CB's are quite good (especially dragovic)
    Arnautovic, guaranteed he's not one of the cleverest players, is a really good footballer, he reminds me somewhat of balotelli but with a lot more passion and desire.

    Junuzovic had a brilliant season at werder Bremen, he's also definitely one of the best players in the team.


    You also habe to give huge credit to the manager, Marcel Koller, who even snubbed the swiss to manage Austria. he build a well organized team out of a bunch of narcisstic egoists.
    Even though we don't have any topstars, apart from alaba, the team is a well working unit, playing very solid and with a lot of passion. We could do with a better striker and goalkeeper tho, just like Liverpool ;-)

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  121. His corners are brilliant

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  122. His wife preferred the area ;-)

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  123. Great read thanks mate.
    and I have a solution for the striking and goalkeeping problems: Just appoint Brendan.

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  124. The team would always do an outstanding job

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  125. I think said tea lady is actually Glen Johnson in a latex rubber mask. I just know it all has to be his fault, somehow!

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  126. Certainly memorable at least.

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  127. Wales beat Belgium

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  128. Where's that Belgian fella who was on here yesterday telling us all about what was wrong with British football? :D

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  129. Was Origi playing?

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  130. That's what you get for not playing Origi :)

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  131. Are Belgium ranked 2nd? I think they might be

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  132. He may have end up at the wrong Wales!

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  133. An up vote just for getting rubber and latex into a post without any innuendo ;-)

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  134. Yes he does, a CDM, and a CM. Yeah more like Hendo maybe but better in tackle and duels :)

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  135. Probably at this very moment burying his head in shame in a large bowl of chips and waffles.

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  136. Doesn't sound so bad when you put it like that.

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  137. Putting the fryer on now.

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  138. Hhahaa great one ;) what about Clarkson I looove Top Gear is he still managing?

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  139. "So I said to her, come on love, just this once, it's me birthday; but she just looked at me and said get your 'tea lady' in that 'latex rubber mask' this minute, I ain't getting banged up with another one of *your* kids".

    "Hang on Raheem, Aidy's at the door and wants a word -- something about James Milner's frigging tea lady or somthing. You better talk to him".

    "Alright Brendan. Here, hold my tea for us."

    "Yessir".

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  140. Leeds? You're not that big on perspective are you mate

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  141. voice of reason9:53 pm, June 12, 2015

    no surprise that happened.... idk why cabaye left newcastle did he think he would outplace matuidi or veratti.... i don't want him at LFC he's a mercenary and i hope sterling enjoys the same fate at Man City

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  142. Can't help but think 'tea bag' is going to end up 'in' this conversation before long.

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  143. They didn't play Mig, Lovren or Origi so who the hell are they going to blame

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  144. Johnson in a latex mask?

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  145. Glen Johnson.

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  146. Raheem clearly hasn't discovered latex yet.

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  147. yes its permanent.

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  148. They can literally blame Joe Allen I guess?

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  149. Thank God! if we made half the initial fee I'd be over the moon

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  150. I fought they was for 'olding ;elium

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  151. If just got rid of him,, i'd be happy,
    but I expect we done ok, not having to pay his salary for the past year, is enough, now we get a fee for him,.whoopie

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  152. After all his art of corner kick was clearly not enough keep him here.

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  153. I take it you haven't seen Cabaye play in a very long time. To keep it simple, he's rubbish.

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  154. Ibe didn't play either!

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  155. He was c,,,,,,ugh!

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  156. And you're sitting in front of your PC, eating fish and chips while you're laughing at him ;-) ?

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  157. Played off the park by Joe Allen this evening ;)

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  158. Are you the aforementioned Belgium DerBaumMann, apologies if I've asked you before and was too drunk to remember.

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  159. Bender, Ilaramendi, Marchisio, Nainggolan, Kongdogbia, Imbula, Gustavo all far better. I'd prefer we sign players who will definitely have a positive impact rather than players we all know will be sh!t&.

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  160. I expect that is the corner kick I will remember all of my liie, even if its for the wrong reasons.

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  161. I totally agree with all the comments that came after mine. And it seems that most fans are on the same page. This what we the fans need to be talking about this situation. Transfers are not important right now because the man who is going to manage or coach them will be the same with the same system or systems. The media has been very quiet about this and it's very odd!! And personally am surprise JK has not have a spread about it. But that's just me. Thanks for the responds!!

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  162. DerBaumMann doesn't sound Belgian, it anything it sounds typical German';-)

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  163. Yes; Germany, Belgium and then Argentina. England are displaying some whopping big ego coming in fifteenth.

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  164. Well, apparently there was a mandatory buy out clause on his loan. I don't know what Seville payed us, but Celta reportedly shelled out 5M, so I'm assuming we got a similar fee.

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  165. Nice Robo;-) Cracked me up!

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  166. That would do, they also have some fantastic fishing, miles and miles of untapped aquatic potential, lucky people.

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  167. Now you telling me we made our money back?;) its like a marquee signing to me!

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  168. Whilst I'm on the subject I'm sure I asked yourself the other day and I should really keep a note of this stuff - you were close to Chirag in India? - Sincere apologies if I get this stuff wrong, if I'm right I think you also have some amazing fishing in even more amazing locations.

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  169. My kid wants to take up angling, and I loved it when I was a nipper. We live by a fair bit of river as well, so I thought he could go after school without going far.

    I went down to the tackle shop along the road to have a look at what sort of price a half-decent rig for a starter would cost.

    I laughed for a bit, assuming it was some sort of joke, then felt a bit sad and awkward because the man was looking at me.

    Then I went home.

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  170. Yep I'm Austrian, and unfortunately I don't fish

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  171. No problem mate try to be sober sometimes while being drunk, I try that sometimes, well not now!;-) Well if you are interested in fishing we have 2,440 kms of pure marvelous coastline in Iran here, Chirag in India may suggest we have the better beaches but don't take his words too serious;) Since I have never asked you were you live, so I have always that option to confidently ask you in the future;)

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  172. But if you were Belgian, let's say, you would have gone fishing?

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  173. Angling has gone a similar way to most everything else, the small local shop just can't compete with the online megastores.
    Don't let that put you off though, I think it's a great thing to get children into, much better to show them a bit of the great outdoors than an xstation or similar.
    It's also become a bit 'fashionable' I'm afraid, well Carp fishing has anyway and unfortunately that's what dominates 90%+ of most tackle shops and the prices for 'Carp gear' are indeed shameful.
    Maybe take a stroll along said stretch of river and mention it to a few locals, I'd be very surprised and disappointed if one or two didn't offer to point you to a more helpful local shop. It shouldn't cost a great deal for the basics.

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  174. Well, a loss of about 3M, but I'll take it!!

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  175. Definitely, the time of my life I spend skiing I would have spend it fishing if I'd live in belgium

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  176. I'll do that mate. Always enjoy interrupting anglers, especially since they can't get away.



    Most of the kids around here seem to chase pike. Never see them catch anything though. I used to go after barbel myself... probably only ever caught about three of them though, but what a thrill.



    Hmm, yeah might get back onto that this weekend... for the boy you understand... ;)

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  177. Forget it, skiing is definitely better;)

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