29 May 2015

Offer Submitted: Liverpool want 'impressive' £25m star who's 'one of the best' right-backs in 15 years

Over the summer, Liverpool were linked with a £40m double swoop for Southampton stars Adam Lallana and Nathaniel Clyne. Lallana signed for LFC, but Clyne stayed at St. Marys, and new reports (predictably) suggest that the Reds are back in the race to sign the coveted defender.

According to the BBC today:

* Liverpool have submitted a £10m bid for Clyne, which Southampton have swiftly rejected.

* The Reds are 'expected to return with an improved offer' in the near future.

£10m? No wonder Southampton rejected the offer. It's typical lowball tactics from Liverpool, and given the inflated fees associated with any moderately talented British player, a £10m bid was always going to fail.

Plus, Manchester United are reportedly willing to pay £25m for Clyne (a laughably exorbitant fee), so £10m is never going to cut.

Grossly inflated fees for British players are par for the course these days, though (Luke Shaw anyone?) and as the fees for Lallana (£26m), Downing (£20m), Carroll (£35m), and Allen (£15m) show, Liverpool are not immune to this madness.

Clyne is definitely on the outs at Southampton, though, and Ronaldo Koeman suggested as much earlier this month, when he told reporters:

"We're still speaking with Clyney and his agent, but of course we have to know in 10 days. He's very happy and of course there is some interest but nobody has really bid for the player".

Ex-Red Jamie Redknapp is a fan of Clyne, and in a recent column for Sky Sports, he enthused:

"I’ve been really impressed with him [Clyne]. He’s athletic, technically good and he’s showing plenty of promise. He’ll learn an awful lot from Ronald Koeman".

Koeman is also impressed with Clyne, and when asked recently about the defender's form, he told reporters:

"Clyne is one of the best right full-backs that I've had in my teams in the last 15 years. I like to play with offensive right and left full-backs and he has those qualities".



I see no incentive for Clyne to leave St. Mary's for Anfield. Historically, Liverpool is a much bigger club, but overall, the Reds have regressed badly this season, and I doubt many players will want to join a club where managerial change is a possibility in the near future.

Wherever Clyne ends up, the transfer fee is likely to be £20m+, and in my view, there are better options out there for that kind of money.

In the meantime, I'm sure Southampton are on tenterhooks waiting for Liverpool's 'improved offer'. With Ian Ayre's world-renowned transfer negotiation genius, it'll probably be around the £10.5m mark...

When it comes to clueless lowballing on transfer fees, I imagine Ayre takes his cue from Roger Thornhill in 'North by Northwest':


Koeman: "If you want Clyne, then the starting price is £20m. We won't accept anything less. £20m or no deal".

Ayre: "Okay, understood. How about £10m?"

At least Thornhill knew what he was doing...

Author: Jaimie K



62 comments:

  1. Theres not many top class right backs out there but if we start the summer with Nico Gaitan, Christian Benteke and Clyne ill be excited. Gaitan assist record outstanding for past five years, clyne can cross and benteke lives off it. Good plan, add to that coutinho andhendo and we look much more direct

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  2. So just need Alderweireld rumour and that's the whole lot, don't think you can argue too much against Clyne's abilities but he isn't a world beater yet and do we really want to get spanked again on price for a player of his current calibre...
    Again, as with Bertrand I think we've missed the boat on this one.

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  3. No player will come in until after the 'end of season review'.

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  4. honestly if that's the kind of tactics Rodgers is looking to use at liverpool he can resign because it'll never work, we're not in the 80's anymore.
    Not to mention that Benteke is not good at running behind defender whichi is the kind of players coutinho need

    (as a Belgian i've seen how one dimensional and ineffective Benteke can be at the highest level so i'd be dissapointed if these 3 are the players we bring)

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  5. Only IMO of course but Trippier can hit quality crosses all day long and would be about a quarter of the price of Clyne. Or we spend a lot more abroad and find someone who's already a level above either of them.

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  6. Utd aren't interested and even so why would they pay £25M for someone who only has a year left on their contract?

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  7. Freaking Sepp Blatter.

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  8. Let's do Arsenal with 10mn and 1 pound bid.

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  9. All speculation so far in fact it always is until a player is officially signed. The last few transfer windows have been pretty crap and frustrating.Why do we always bid lower for players? No wonder we get gazumpt and loose out on targets. We definitely need experienced players in this summer.

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  10. He would be a good signing and would be a huge improvement over Johnson

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  11. I hope we also sign LB...Moreno is very inconsistent and cannot be relied upon for entire season.

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  12. What's the date?

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  13. If we keep buying players from clubs below us that is what we become. It's already starting to happen. It's not rocket science. Carroll/Adam/Downing/Allen/lambert/loveren/lalana/ etc and now we are linked with clyne and benteke... We are a absolute joke, nobody wants these players are we paying 20 mill plus... Since when did Benteke suit our style of play? Carrol mk 2.... We are going nowhere fast. Only Ancelotti can save us but why would he come?

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  14. But will a player come to Liverpool if he is playing for a club which finishes above Liverpool?

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  15. Who wouldn't want to come to a league with the biggest amount of TV money? We are nothing but a team with a small club mentality... We could get these quality players if we pay the wages that the top 4 do, instead we pay crap wages but spend millions on crap players who can't make the squad. We are a joke. 23 mill on Adam lalana but we don't want to give sterling 100k plus a week, who plays every game and has the potential to be world clas. It's a joke.

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  16. Reports saying he is keen on the move and United have pulled out.

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  17. I think he's a quality player and would love him at Liverpool. But I would not pay over £15 million for him considering he has only a year left on his contract. I'm not gonna get too excited though coz if united come in for him than he's going there

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  18. Mancs do the world a favor when they pull out ;-)

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  19. so true... If we sign benteke we have just retreated back to the 1980s are we really trying to replace Suarez with him... Suarez was Taylor made for our style but now we want a big target man cause Carroll was such a success

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  20. Dude.. we haven't been a big club for a very long time.


    The last major competition we won was 10 years.


    You don't want us to sign players for team below us, fine, name me a player who players for Arsenal, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City that you believe we can sign

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  21. We do not need to sign players from those teams. There is an entire avenue in Europe with great players in different leagues where you could get them at cheap prices. These clubs are all in debt and players would not require sky high wages either.

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  22. I agree that money talks but Liverpool always throw money on multiple cheap players instead of buying one or two good ones.

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  23. Stan Dinaround7:19 pm, May 29, 2015

    I don't agree with you often, but this is one of those occassions... completely agree with all you said.... I'm going to have a sit down now...

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  24. JK Quote - Koeman is also impressed with Clyne, and when asked recently about the defender's form, he told reporters:

    "Clyne is one of the best right full-backs that I've had in my teams in the last 15 years. I like to play with offensive right and left full-backs and he has those qualities".

    ..... is that not a bit of gross overpraise JK?

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  25. He actually said he was "offensive" not exactly very complimentary

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  26. Why should we just accept that? What other company would allow this stupid business policy?

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  27. I don't think so. Koeman just states that Clyne is one of the best RBs he has ever managed which can be true.

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  28. Stan Dinaround7:25 pm, May 29, 2015

    People always bang on about wages, but show me one LFC player that deserves more than what they currently earn... Sturridge is on £150k a week and he doesn't play..... If Suarez had stayed, he would have been on £200k, £35k more than he gets now at Barca.... Wages should be representitive to the player, and not just huge for the sake of paying huge wages....
    LFC were also willing to pay Falcao his wage demand before he chose Utd.... Wage is just another inaccuracy people like to throw around.... And then people call Sterling a mercenary.... The conflict is hilarious.

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  29. Is there anything we can do? It has been happening since last several years. Liverpool is behind other teams solely due to bad management.

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  30. I have no interested in signing players from the 5 clubs above us either? I'm not some disillusioned Lfc fan but we should be looking at the best players all over the world, bench players for real or barca... But yet we don't even bother and go for players like Danny fooking ings, and Milner. Let's get real... Milner is not a game changer. And that is exactly what we need... We have enough squad filler for the whole league

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  31. NonEventHorizon7:31 pm, May 29, 2015

    Ronaldo Koeman haha! Now that's overpraise

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  32. Stan Dinaround7:31 pm, May 29, 2015

    Dude, where's my car?

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  33. Fine, name me some of those players who are better then what we have and are not currently playing for CL teams that wont cost us 10's of millions of pounds.


    I remember people screaming that we should of signed Michu and what a great bargain he was.. where is he now?

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  34. Show you one player? Sterling... he is on 30 k and he has to sit next to Marino who pisses about it is prob on 100k... Football isn't the real work.. No one on earth should earn the crazy money but it happens so just accept it... I'm saying instead of paying 35 mill on Carroll save that and buy Costa and give him a decent wage. If we offered him the wages I have no doubt we would have him instead of Chelsea

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  35. You say you not a disillusioned liverpool fan but then complain that we have a small club mentality because we are not signing World Class Players.


    We are not signing World Class players because we are no longer relevant in Europe.


    History means sweet fa for most players, all they want is money + CL football.

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  36. Sorry mate but you are living in a different world if you believe Costa would of turned down Chelsea for Liverpool.


    Let compare..


    CL football - Chelsea
    Trophies won in the last 5 years


    Liverpool - 1 - League Cup


    Chelsea - 7 - 2 PL Titles, 2 FA Cups, 1 League Cup, 1 CL, 1 Europe Cup


    Managers


    BR v JM, do I need to say more

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  37. Or maybe its because the really great players simply do not want to play for a team who have only won 1 meaningful thing and that was 10 years and its rare we can offer CL football.

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  38. Stan Dinaround7:43 pm, May 29, 2015

    Moreno is not on £100k.. And Sterling is a 20 yr old kid... He is not worth £100k, especially on this seasons performances...Coutinho is not even on £100k a week.

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  39. Also, what has sterling done that makes him be a potential world class player.

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  40. Your the one talking about history. I haven't even mentioned it.... And your argument is weak.. Are you telling me we couldn't have signed mata at United... morata from real who is now tearing it up at juve.. Or Bacca who just won the Europa cup or Jackson Martinez years ago... We finished second, we knew Suarez was going but we bought lambert and Mario and markovic and Adam l for 20+... Tell me how that is not a small club mentality.

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  41. Mike Aitcheson7:46 pm, May 29, 2015

    I think he meant Mario

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  42. Stan Dinaround7:48 pm, May 29, 2015

    Fair enough, but he's not on £100k either... £80k from the last article I read that made mention of it...

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  43. No need to say sorry because it's clear you don't even realise that we were after Costa 1 whole season before Chelsea showed any interest. We even triggered his buy out clause

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  44. Schneiderlin & Clyne are very good players if we can get them I'm sure another 50 m grant to soton and whichever team finishes higher will be LFC A or B team or vice versa...

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  45. He's done enough to spark interest in real and Munich two of the best 3 or 4 clubs in the world... I'm not saying he tore it up this year, in fact if he played better we could be top 4 but the fact is he was the best of a bad bunch at Lfc this year. Until recently he was our top scorer... We should be keeping these players and building our team around them. Yet we call him a mercenary and pretend we are happy to see him leave. Great with that 50 mill we can buy a Carroll and Adam L 👌

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  46. You just read these rumours and you want to cry. Nobody wants Clyne. Clubs like Spurs and Everton want Clyne, not Europes elite. Friggin Clyne...why dont we offer them Lallana for Clyne plus ten million since he was worth 25 million according to them

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  47. You don't realise that Chelsea were always going to sign him.

    Costa and Mourinho share the same agent, they both know each other well.

    Mourinho has signed 12 players that are represented by Jorge Mendes.

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  48. Stan Dinaround7:58 pm, May 29, 2015

    Typical response form someone who doesn't know anything of football past a game of Fifa.

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  49. What interest? They said he is a good young player and that is it.


    Lets see who is really interested when the transfer window opens.


    I bet only 1 club put in a firm bid and that will be City,if he is a good as you say, then a host of clubs should be bidding for him.


    As for the mercenary, its because he is asking for so much money when he has accomplished nothing.

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  50. Yes we didn't stand a chance of any of those players.


    Sorry it hurts but there it is.


    Look at the players we have signed over the last 15 years or so by various managers.


    How many came from Top European clubs?


    Maybe 2 or 3 out of hundreds.


    Why do you think that is?

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  51. We triggered Costa 1aug 2013 but out clause 2 months after Jose return to Chelsea 3 June 2013. Believe me, Chelsea were not interested then... If they were why didn't they trigger his buy out clause of 21.8 mill instead of paying 32 mill a year later. They could have saved 10.2 mill if as you as say Chelsea were "always going to sign him"

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  52. Because that's just the way they roll, proper mugs with a ridiculous manager ;-)

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  53. Why do you think Costa decided to stay and not come to us?

    There are 2 options,

    1, He saw no point making the move to Liverpool as we are not bigger then Athletico and he was right as they went on to win the league that year were as we won nothing.

    2 He knew Chelsea would be coming for him at the end of the year.

    Either way, him deciding to stay at Atletico shows that Liverpool does not have the pulling power you think it does.

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  54. Really? We didn't stand any chance?.... We didn't stand any chance because we have a small club mentality and are happy with Borini and Allen instead of going all out and buying quality. Tell me honestly do you really think that's the best we can get?....I think you underestimate Lfc because you have got comfortable with our pathetic recruitment team.

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  55. Italian pressepoting tha

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  56. So you mean Liverpool couldn't have done any better? We are where we deserve?

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  57. 29 May.........;-)

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  58. It's funny; we bang on and on about how our league is the 'best' in the world, and to be fair, as far as watching and competing teams for the top honours, it probably is...but..
    .we find it very difficult to represent in Europe past a certain point and then on top of that there is the massive question of champs league exits....


    so, my point; well I'm sitting here wondering just for exercising my dream muscles what it would be like with one of Europes power-house managers in charge of us - I mean who would they go for...prem quality or European pedigree, or world potential....its such an intriguing question....
    ...yet here we are discussing/arguing over whether the price for Clyne is insulting or not...
    ...I believe the whole equation is marred by the fact he's British /English and stands out in a 'team', yes 'team' of individuals who click in their present guise.....
    ..I get the part about Johnson costing x and Shaw costing y...but...I would never want my team paying over the odds and don't give a flying sh*t what the market thinks of wjether the offer is demeaning or not - there is demeaning a potential business partner and then there's one year left on a contract - you cannot have both......
    10 million is a fair 'starting point' for when/if serious negotiations begin...
    ...remember we've been fair fu**ed over a barrel for quite some time now..and its about time it stopped...one way or another...and s*d what anyone thinks of it....

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  59. The stats doesn't lie.


    1 major trophy in 10 years which was 10 years ago.


    4 Top 4 Finishes in 10 years.


    Of course we deserve to be where we are.


    I don't like it but its the plain truth.

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  60. Seems maybe this transfer price/negotiation thingy is a potato becoming too hot to handle so I won't argue anyone on the break down of how it gets done, but I think we'd all agree that as long as LFC start getting the 'final' price right then perhaps the proceeding back and forth is of little importance.

    Am very intrigued by your thought-opener regards what direction a 'Ancelotti type' would take us though, as Thexcuriousxwanderer suggested to me on the previous thread, perhaps we should loan Brendan out thus allowing us to retain him until he's learnt not to be such a naughty boy and make room for an Ancelotti or Klopp experiment in the meantime.

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