21 May 2015

Priority Transfer? Liverpool chase '€15m' powerhouse who called LFC 'a dream club'

After the 3-1 home to defeat Crystal Palace at the weekend, Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers blasted his team's 'poor' defending, something that has plagued the club for most of the last two seasons. Rodgers has reportedly prioritised the signing of yet another centre-back this summer, and new reports suggest that Juventus centre-back Angelo Ogbonna is back on the Reds' wanted list.

According to ESPN on Tuesday:

"Sources have told ESPN that Liverpool and Tottenham are both considering a move for Juventus defender Angelo Ogbonna [who is] high on their wanted lists".

Ogbonna has been linked with Liverpool several times over the last few years, and last season, the 24-year confirmed the Reds' interest:

"I am flattered by the interest from clubs. Liverpool is a dream club, it is awesome that they are interested in me. I love the Premier League and one day I might play in that league".

In October 2012, Anfield Scouts were dispatched to run the rule over the Italian, who has spoken many times of his desire to play in the Premier League. Indeed, speaking to Tuttosport last season, Ogbonna made this clear once again:

"I would go abroad willingly. I would like to experience other cultures. English football fascinates me, and the style is similar to Torino's one. And I speak English."

Ogbonna is definitely for sale. When asked about the 6'2 defender's future in December, Juve Sporting Director Fabio Patarici told reporters:

"We have never thought about giving Ogbonna up [to someone] on loan and we have never taken the idea of releasing him into consideration, but if someone wants him, they will have to present us with an offer of €15 million".



Given the mass of quality players at Juve, it's no surprise that Ogbonna has struggled to hold down a first-team place, and €15m is a palatable fee for a proven international defender approaching his prime.

Having said that, 'proven international defender aproaching his prime' is a description that also fits Dejan Lovren, and he has failed to make the expected difference for Liverpool this season.

Unfortunately, despite his professed admiration for Liverpool, it seems likely that the Italian would reject a move to Anfield. Prior to his move to Juve, he told reporters:

"A move abroad? Why not? My dream is to play in a Champions League Final.”

That's Liverpool out of the running, then! Who knows - Ogbonna will achieve his Champions League final dream this season, so once that's out of his system, maybe the Reds will become a viable option?

Author: Jaimie K



311 comments:

  1. Thank you for your reply, but I'm afraid you missed my point. It was not that Rafa did really well by reaching the quarter-finals. For most Liverpool supporters, I'm sure they were as disappointed as I was, because we could have gone further with that team.


    My point was that Rafa had not only European competition, but the TOP tournament, to prepare for, so he could not 'rest' players, or throw in the youngsters for 'experience. Furthermore, we were not out of it in the group stage, so he had to contend with full-on competition for most of the season; Rodgers had no distractions whatsoever.


    In other words, he had an easy ride.


    As for world-class players, this is true, though it could be said that with Suarez's being the third-best player in the world, and enjoying a season for the ages, he was a force even greater than any of the players Rafa had at his disposal.


    P.S. - Please don't revise history: it was four points behind. Oh, and one could play with statistics and say that had we scored only TWO more goals, we would have been champions; last year's Liverpool needed to score another five or six (more?) to overhaul the goal difference.

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  2. Indeed. I watched that match (I live in Asia, where it's on at 3a.m., so 'watching a match' is not so easy) and I must say, we defended so well! It's almost as if we were told to do precisely that....and offer nothing else. That couldn't be so, could it? Knowing we're already beaten, so just make the best of it by 'holding them off' as long as possible?

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  3. No notta Ogbonna he not come to England he missa the mumma.

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  4. FSG and BR - Sack him or Back him next week but whatever the decision UNDERTAND THIS We do not want Sterling at our CLUB next season - B R thinks fans want him - Shows you how out of touch he has become - There is simply no comparison between Suarez and Sterling - one brilliant ball control etc the other the most overated player on planet earth = DITCH HIM BEFORE THE FOOLS WHO WANT HIM CATCH ON

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  5. GOOD NEWS - Ibe will sign a new contract today !!

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  6. "...he missa the mumma"

    Classic!

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  7. It's not like Rodgers had not been selling players. Net spend is about thirty million a year. As for signings taking an age. How many have we missed out on due to Ayre low balling? How many ayers were supposed to be done deals.before falling apart? Too many. At least Rafa had the chance to get more players in their prime rather than have a decree to buy young.
    Other than that I agree with a lot of what you say but suggest the Alonso thing was certainly not helped. The way Gerrard and Carra turned on Benitez was evidence that the Alonso thing was not as peachy as you suggest.
    As for stadiums it tends to he around five percent of income.e so I am.not sure it is a part that matters as much. Whilst FSG seem very business save they are really green when it comes to football and has lead to some mismanagement of thier own. Hopefully this will all be rectified.

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  8. How about we try a defensive midfielder too...someone to protect the back line...

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  9. Next you'll have us believe that polar bears die when they drown, you twisted sorcerer.

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  10. That's just silly....a DM

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  11. Well we were only the runners up of the Premier League and had just invested 115 million into our squad so one should not expect too much. Almost not losing was really more than we could have hoped for.

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  12. Great lost a pound found sixpence.


    I am happy he has signed though but I would just rather all these things were conducted behind closed doors. They keep enough other things quiet when it suits them

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  13. I agree that Rodgers took it too far and doesn't know when to use what approach. I said so in the article itself. On the other hand, I don't mind winning every game 4-3, as long as we win it. We didn't lose the title last year because we conceded 50. We lost it because we didn't settle for a draw against Chelsea. The minute Rodgers realized Chelsea had come to park the bus he should have told the team to pass it around on the halfway line to either draw them out or play out the 0-0 draw. They put 11 men in their penalty box which reduced us to having to put in crosses. Obviously Terry and Kalas then win all day against the likes of Suarez.

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  14. That's so true. The club's PR campaign is carefully orchestrated. Seems to me they decided a while ago that Sterling would be sold if he didn't sign their offer, but in a bid to retain his perceived transfer value they demonise him (for his misdeeds, it must be said) and make it seem like the club is being forced into making a quick from his sale. I hold no brief for Sterling but the club are simply attempting to win the fans' support for the sale of another prized asset this summer. It's a less elegant version of what they did with Torres.

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  15. Jamie - Is it true that following his recent form SEBASTIAN COATES is now valued at £95 million ?? BR might buy him - ?? Send Ayre to finalise the deal

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  16. Heard that man Utd enquired about sterling and we quickly reject, i just don't think there's anyone with a common sense among the committee...this is the best time to sell sterling and manc's is the best mug out there (imo), also, I don't care whether he signs for rival clubs.. He's not a player that scares me (at all )

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  17. Nicolas Chamberlain9:32 am, May 21, 2015

    Benitez is going to replace Ancelotti next season...

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  18. yep we should bid the 95m straight to him

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  19. It seems as if BR and IA job's are safe
    Reports are that the 2 people under pressure are Dave Fallows and Michael Edwards, they seem to be taking the flake for poor recruitment and performance analysis.

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  20. Jaimie, do you really think that we need another CB? We have three highly paid and expensive CB's in Skrtel, Lovren and Sakho at the club. As a backup, I would like to see Toure sign a one year extension. If not, we have Ilori coming back. If Ilori is not even good enough to be a 4th choice CB then he should be sold and then buying another young potential CB would make sense. Also, I might be the only one who thinks Coates is an excellent back-up option. Sunderland will definitely bid for him and he will be sold for 4mn. I hope we hold onto him as our 4th choice CB if Ilori is shown the door.
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    To shell out another 15-20mn on CB would only make sense if we sell one of the three CB we have. Lovren is the most likely candidate in that case.

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  21. Did anyone read this?

    Raheem Sterling’s agent Aidy Ward confirms star wants to leave Liverpool

    “I don’t care about the PR of the club and the club situation. I don’t care.

    “He is definitely not signing. He’s not signing for £700, £800, £900 thousand a week. He is not signing.

    “My job is to make sure I do the best with them (my clients). If people say I am bad at my job, or they are badly advised it does not matter.”

    Ward said: “Carragher is a knob. Everybody knows it. Any of the criticism from current pundits or ex-Liverpool players - none of them things matter to me. It is not relevant.”

    “How did this all occur? There is no smoke without fire.”

    Ward said Sterling would not move to Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern Munich, and suggested Chelsea or Manchester City were the most likely destinations.

    He added: “I am not worried. Worried is making a decision not knowing what is going to happen. Every premier league club will make a bid for him.”

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  22. Andy Ward- 'I don't care about the PR of the club or the club situation- he's not signing for 7 8 or 9 hundred thousand a week'- he finished off by calling Carragher a knob

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  23. There's a report from Sterlings agent which I've tried to share but moderation won't allow- he has some choice words for Carra

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  24. He said: “I don’t care about the PR of the club and the club situation. I don’t care.

    “He is definitely not signing. He’s not signing for £700, £800, £900 thousand a week. He is not signing.

    “My job is to make sure I do the best with them (my clients). If people say I am bad at my job, or they are badly advised it does not matter.”

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  25. I heard Sterling turned down a £900K a week contract offer from Liverpool

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  26. My comment went into moderation too while sharing the same stuff.

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  27. Maybe the bit about Carra sent it to word police

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  28. Sell him now, no brainer.

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  29. http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/raheem-sterlings-agent-aidy-ward-confirms-star-wants-to-leave-liverpool-900000aweek-would-not-keep-him-at-anfield-10266233.html

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  30. Yes knob would not be allowed ;-)

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  31. Kenny's job was also 'safe' weeks before he got the boot.


    The transfer committee includes Ayre and Rodgers. Fallows and Edwards would have had their session already with FSG. They have not been sacked as yet unlike Comollli who left before Kenny did.


    Once the Stoke match is done and dusted then FSG will reveal their cards...

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  32. Not in envelopes?

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  33. Sell Sterling to the highest bidder for as much as we can squeeze out.

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  34. Rodgers has kept those envelopes hidden. All three of them contain his name...

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  35. I know that JK does not like to follow the crowd but I do feel it's time he gave in and did an article about Sterling possibly with a poll? ;-)

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  36. Cannot see Madrid going for Rafa unless is it only for the short term. Though, if Ancelotti does leave Madrid then he becomes an option for us to have a look at.

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  37. Can I get Aidy Ward's number? Anyone?

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  38. I doubt that Loges and its pure conjecture that Kenny was safe weeks before once Comolli got the boot many thought he was next.

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  39. I don't think he's single mate...

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  40. 12 April 2012
    Director of football Damien Comolli left the club on Thursday but Werner said Dalglish’s position was safe.’We’ve got great confidence in Kenny,’ he said.’We feel the team is going to make strides in the future and he enjoys our full support.

    16 May 2012 - Dalglish sacked

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  41. Or wants to leave the mediocrity that he sees before him at the moment.

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  42. Werner likely told everyone BS one of the great sayings ion sport is when a top admin says their jobs safe it usually means the end is nigh.

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  43. Logan hes after trophies but he doesnt say that them potential trophies are full of 150k cheques

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  44. Well many rumours suggest that FSG are not sacking Rodgers. Nothing direct from the horses moth but FSG have said nothing since Werner spoke to the media in February this year.


    Weeks ago there was a 'crisis' meeting at Anfield which did not include Rodgers and FSG have not called for any of the heads that attended that meeting.


    Somebody is going to be shown the door...

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  45. Unless they atre blind or the powers out im sure theres no need to be shown where the door is.

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  46. How do you know? ;-)

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  47. City, Chelsea, Madrid etc can offer him the same as LFC did and then he has a chance to go win trophies.


    He stays at Anfield, accepts £100k a week and should Rodgers still be in charge is surrounded by excuses of why the club is still not able to win trophies.


    It is a no brainer.

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  48. Now there are new reports of Ward denying all the quotes. What is happening?

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  49. Well it does not seem like those who have already been grilled are being moved on otherwise FSG would have already done so.


    I reckon Mr Rodgers and Mr Ayre are in a wee bit of trouble...

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  50. He would not be getting a look in at Madrid or Chelsea he is not going to get better sitting in the crowd.

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  51. At least he will have a chance to win something.

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  52. With that way of thinking i sat in the crowd at many great sporting events i must be an gold medallist then amongst other magnificent achievements.

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  53. Sterlings agent is playing a very dangerous game - he needs to think

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  54. Poor Sterling.

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  55. Why Ayre? does a great job organizing sponsorships etc.

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  56. Well he's shafting our club for starters...

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  57. I can't see it lasting though

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  58. Definitely need his number now :-)

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  59. Billy Hogan - Chief Commercial Officer. Could easily become MD as he served as Managing Director for Fenway Sports Management before arriving at Anfield...

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  60. Ayres a good businessman if your concerns are about his handling of transfers well that will be taken care of by a DOF.

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  61. I said nothing about his handling of transfers.

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  62. Well there you have it.

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  63. Sterling needs to think.

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  64. I just read he is the agent for Berahino and Oxlade-chamberlain, I guess Berahino would be out of the transfer market now huh... I still would prefer for cheap Ings and Austin if funds r limited.

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  65. You have to wonder where Raheem's head is at. He must see that this Aidy award has caused him nothing but trouble. Even if he still wanted a move, I'm sure another agent could facilitate that without the circus that's gone along with this contract saga

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  66. Absolutely. It would have been better if Sterling just announced that he desires to play in the ECL and would like to move to another club.

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  67. An article with only one word - Sterling - will do right now. No poll nothing, am sure everyone wants his sorry a$$ out now.

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  68. Yes, he just came.

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  69. Well his agent said that no matter how much LFC offer, Sterling wants to go.


    Sterling did talk about CL football in the interview with BBC.

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  70. Sterling should have himself asked for a transfer citing CL aspirations. There was no need for the circus.

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  71. The only reason for not doing this I believe is he may forfeit some money by handing in a transfer request

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  72. They should have 180 envelopes because BR had a 180 page dossier

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  73. On the back of linkages created by FSG. Dunkin Doughnuts

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  74. Sell him to QPR.

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  75. I don't think this Sterling contract stand-off is about money after all. It's about Rodgers, and about wanting to play at a better club, whether this perspective Raheem has is wrong or not.

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  76. Why dont we go for Rafa ourselves first? Read here some days ago that some folk thought Rafa had no loyalty towards us because he once took the chelski job.

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  77. Maybe LFC could have dealt with his contract much earlier.


    The way LFC has handled the situation since Rodgers opened his mouth months ago about Sterling's contract and allowed him to continue talking about was the start of all this mess.


    Why was Sterling's contract left for this late?


    Stevie said this back in February this year.


    "He knows what I want him to do. Not just him, Jordan Henderson as well. When I was coming through at Liverpool, every time you got within a couple of years left your contract would be renewed and there would no worrying or panic stage but I see Henderson with a year left and I see Sterling - it is in the paper too much - and I know there is no smoke without fire.

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  78. Yeah, I know, a defensive mechanic ;)

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  79. Garuda Subway Konica Minolta Standard Chartered Thomas Cook Jack Wolfskin Vauxhall Maxxis etc.

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  80. I heard he loves a big shaft

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  81. Here is to hoping that both BR and Raheem are no longer with us come next season. We should have people that have less excuses and more performances

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  82. I blame Carlsberg

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  83. Giving him 100k contract is more than fair for his performances this season as for him wanting CL football, the way I see it, he can sign a contract play for two years if things are not better then he can move. He will be 22 by then and has a more than 10 years of playing career ahead of him.

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  84. This is still all based on press reports of course but it does see, he wants away. It seems to be less about money per se and more about ambition and whether it will be met at Liverpool.


    At the end of the day if he wants away the club will get a good return and to be honest at the moment I suspect his chances of winning things with Chelsea seem higher than staying at Liverpool.

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  85. If you think you're good enough why would you tread water for two years when you believe you can develop quicker elsewhere?

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  86. I don't think a 20 year old who is still learning his trades, and who is having a poor season at the club has the right to question the clubs ambition publicly. For gods sake he doesn't even have the courage to take a penalty at crunch time.

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  87. Nope not quite everyone but I think now he will go and the sooner it is sorted the better for Liverpool.

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  88. Absolutely! What are people complaining about?! I mean, take a look at the competitors: Spurs spent all that money and did *they* challenge, even though, as "The Tactical Genius" himself said, they really ought to have done; and Southampton, too! They got all that money for three players and they're below us - of course!


    Honestly, wanting cake and eating it, that's what too many fans want this day and age.

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  89. If he believes he is going to get more game time somewhere else then he is sadly delusional. In addition it's not as if he is not being offered a better contract

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  90. Mebbe but no one has died here he just wants out

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  91. How strange my post just came through

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  92. He is backing himself and yes he might fall on his '@rse but it's his @rse

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  93. Yup; it's generous to the point of excess by the club. It looks like a case of 'player wants to leave' and 'club foresees a big pay day', with the club saving face by winning the PR battle. No victims in this one. Perhaps Sterling doesn't get along with Rodgers, which would partly explain away the poor footballing logic of it all.

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  94. Ok. While he may be that much older, at this moment I think we should be concerned with output more than age. If he is going ot give us in 2/3 seasons tons more than Lallana/Mackovic can ever do in their 5/6 years I think frankly we mustnt care about age.

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  95. Let's say you love your first car. You've maintained, and kept it running in tip-top shape, even though it's 15 years old. There's a large sentimental value to you.


    Let's say I want that exact car that you have. I offer you 10k, and you reject. I offer you 100k, and you reject. You really have no interest to sell.


    Now I offer you 500k. All of a sudden, you start to realize that you're never going to get an offer like this ever again, but you stick to your guns and don't sell.


    Now I offer you 1,000,000. The more I offer, the more you start to waver on the idea of keeping it. And eventually you will most likely decide to sell.


    Apply the same concept to Southampton. I'm not stating that they WANTED to sell Lovren and Lallana. But LFC overpaid so dramatically for both, that there simply wasn't any way that Soton could refuse.


    We paid 20m for Lovren and 25m for Lallana. Utterly ridiculous, considering Lovren was bought the year prior for 8m, and no one here thought Lallana was anything more than a 15m player at most.


    So here's Southampton with values of 23m combined, and Liverpool waltz in to offer 45m combined.


    No team would ever turn that down if someone offered twice the value.

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  96. Or perhaps his agents came out with it to put other teams on notice that he would be available, and this was the starting wage price.

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  97. If Ibe doesn't play in the FA Cup final I will loose all confidence in BR

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  98. I was referring to a value standpoint.


    Typically speaking, a player at 29 is not going to be worth the same as a player at 25.


    So if we paid 25m for Lallana when he was 25, how would we justify paying as much if not more for Mandzukic when he's 29.

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  99. Perfect! Sell sterling and use the money to sign Coates

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  100. If that bit is true and it seems possible then I agree it is not a good way to do business but he probably knows as long as he has clients that clubs want they will put their personal feelings aside and deal with him.

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  101. Probably......

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  102. I understand that aspect but I think we should take valuation holistically to go beyond age alone but to include ability (demonstrated ability over potential) when we work these evaluations. I doubt Lallan is ever going to set a league like the Bundesliga alight, unlike Mario who has demonstrated that over several seasons. Lallana has had what one full season in which he strutted his stuff but we found it ok to pay 25 for him, how about someone with actual experience of doing greater than the potential demonstrated by Lallana over one season.

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  103. Perhaps he can win the Championship...


    After all, if he's all about trophies :)

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  104. So they did want to sell. If you don't want to do something, nothing can sway you. I can't blame them though

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  105. I take it that the guys doing our transfers have played soccer beofre and understand that potential cannot cost more than actual experience. Bearing in mind how british media is just good at hyping up players, the surcharge on home grown players inflating their fees, AND liverpool's apparent preference for those hyped up british potentials. I fear, if we are going to move out of our current quagmire, we will have to swallow our pride and accept that potential is potential and painfully, we have bought loads of it, which could potentially be a strong point IN FUTURE (when the potential translates to actual performance). However, NOW we need to buy experience, esp with Stevie's departure and waning match influence in the most recent past seasons

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  106. I look at this way, if he wants to move on fine but there is a way of doing it.

    Look at Suarez last season. We all knew he wanted to leave at the end of the season but he played his heart out for us, he gave everything he had and I really believe he was genuinely upset after the palace game.

    Sterling on the other hand has been poor and has a look about him that he couldn't give a toss.

    On top of that he had achieved very little this season when he had the chance to really prove himself.

    I hope liverpool put a stupidly massive price tag on his had and tell him that him that unless it is met he will stay and play with the kids if necessary.

    The good thing in our favour is that he will never go for free as because of his age his price would be set by a tribunal and they will use what bids the club has received for him when it comes to figuring out our compensation

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  107. Steven Gerrard comparing his Liverpool treatment with the likes of Henderson or Sterling should be taken with a grain of salt.


    Here we have a Liverpool-born, Liverpool-developed, Liverpool-fan-growing-up, becoming a club legend. And his contract was typically taken care of over the years.


    On the other hand, we have two players who were bought, one who struggled for a few years and has turned into a nice player for us, and the other is a 20 year old up and comer who ultimately has a potentially great future, but is far from the finished product.


    My point is, players get treated differently all the time. Don't take the quote you referenced at face value.

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  108. Another point about his agent, even thou he started his own company he is still contracted to give his former company a percentage of any deal involving Sterling

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  109. See my point about sterling agent, sorry to say but in today's game it always comes down to money

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  110. It's only a matter of time. Soon there will nobody left to scapegoat. If Rodgers didn't know who Balotelli is and what he brings to the table or wants to pretend he could be misinformed about him, he shouldn't even be allowed out the door. Let alone manage our football club.

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  111. Had a dream last night that I had to change my name. Hope it wasn't prophetic.

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  112. My point is that there is a difference between wanting to sell, and choosing to sell because you received an offer that was too good to pass up.

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  113. Sure... from the bench

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  114. Whenever a player says it's not about the money...


    It's about the money.

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  115. He won't stay regardless of the offer we give him.

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  116. I'm not basing my comment on press reports. I've known this for a few weeks now.

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  117. I believe he thinks Carra's a bit of a shaft

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  118. That's what people were saying about Falcao before he signed with Monaco


    It's amazing the power of money

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  119. How do you know what BR thinks?
    Maybe he is trying to control what is seen by some to be an exodus of talent from LFC...
    Maybe he is trying to keep him because he knows LFC is the best place for the boy at this point in time...
    Maybe he is trying to keep him until his worth is such that the club make serious bank when they finally sell him to La Liga or Serie A...
    Maybe he is a cannibal and has pinpointed Sterling's spleen as the tastiest in the squad, and therefore wants to keep him on until he has the chance to pounce and devour...
    Maybe he's having an affair with Sterling's girlfriend and can't bear to see her move away...

    Point is it's not as simple as all that. But I guess yous in the other camp will see anything as proof of BR being out of touch:
    Great! My kid just shat on the carpet! Just goes to show you how out of touch BR is!
    Fantastic! My wife drank all my scotch! Goes to show how out of his depth BR is!
    Look at that shooting star! F@ck Rodgers!

    Agreed there's no comparison between Suarez and Sterling.

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  120. And what a great competitor you obviously are!


    :)

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  121. Yeah, but he likes a lot of shaft, not a bit.

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  122. He's the shaftmaster

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  123. Agreed. For me, Sterling mentioned money too much in the infamous interview for it NOT to be about money. Methinks he doth protest too much and all that...

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  124. Well, yeah, when you offer a dude around 300K a week. Liverpool are not going to give that. At the moment, it's seems that Raheem would love to settle for the trade-off of less wages for a big team in the UCL.

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  125. Can ya dig it?

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  126. Money, glamour.....the sunshine of manchester...


    ....maybe he just wants to join a club where he will get the number of their resident 'eyebrow plucker' so he can look good on the pitch like ronaldo and bale...
    ....see LFC don't have one of those we only have a decent chippie.....

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  127. For a black man, he's holding quite a short shaft.

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  128. Agent talks on Sterling cancelled - We are a laughing stock - TOM WERNER SHOULD RESIGN

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  129. Sterling needs a new agent !!!

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  130. Aidy Ward is in BIG TROUBLE NOW - J Henry will keep him now just to spite the CLEVER DICK - Well done Ward - very clever

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  131. I don't understand why Liverpool rejected Man Utd approach for Sterling. We should sell him to Man Utd only. .makes perfect sense for me.
    1) Man Utd are going to spend crazy money this summer and we should try to benefit from it.
    2) Sterling will hardly get game ahead of Di Maria and Depay
    3) Sterling will be hated forever
    4) It will be a lesson for other young players wanting out

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  132. I hope so. Neither are up to LFC standard, imho.

    You've given me hope with your posts in this thread!

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  133. I think it was a right decision by Liverpool. Why are you angry? Or is this your natural mood?

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  134. Agreed ,Should have been sorted out last summer !

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  135. OPR still get 25% from the sale of Sterling !!!

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  136. Where is ngctc when you need him!!

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  137. Ray we are not a laughing stock mate...

    ...cancelling the meeting is really the only dignified response to a man mentioning the word 'knob' publicly to acknowledge a guy who gave his whole career to LFC...or maybe Aidy Ward was looking in the mirror...

    ....anyway yeah, sterling and his agent/'devil on shoulder' are idiots therefore LFC should dictate the pace now as they are doing behind the scenes I'm sure....
    ....since carroll and downing we really have seen FSG consolidate and refuse to get put over a barrel...and much to all our discomfort they've walked away from deals that have gone beyond what they are prepared pay....
    ...that always looks like we cant get/afford/attract but it could be part of the whole ethos of 'fu** right off if you thing we're doing that' philosophy.....one hopes.....

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  138. Ray we are not a laughing stock mate...

    ...cancelling the meeting is really the only dignified response to a man mentioning the word 'kn*b' publicly to acknowledge a guy who gave his whole career to LFC...or maybe Aidy Ward was looking in the mirror...

    ....anyway yeah, sterling and his agent/'devil on shoulder' are idiots therefore LFC should dictate the pace now as they are doing behind the scenes I'm sure....
    ....since carroll and downing we really have seen FSG consolidate and refuse to get put over a barrel...and much to all our discomfort they've walked away from deals that have gone beyond what they are prepared pay....
    ...that always looks like we cant get/afford/attract but it could be part of the whole ethos of 'fu** right off if you thing we're doing that' philosophy.....one hopes.....

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  139. No, there is no video. If there is, then you're welcome to post a link.

    As for the 'false statement' claim: On Dec 20, Liverpool released a statement responding to Suarez's ban, which included the following sentence:

    http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/liverpool-fc-statement-20-12-11

    "It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations."

    Prior to the Suarez issue, Evra had never made a race accusation against anyone:

    http://www.liverpool-kop.com/2011/12/debunking-lfc-myths-no-11-patrice-evra.html

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  140. He's not angry... his caps lock broke at the end of his sentence.


    I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS

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  141. Carra deserves the names, the way he's talked about Sterling is unprofessional. He could have been more dignified.

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  142. Which proves my point that it's all about the money.


    Raheem's not going to settle for a trade-off. To me the funniest part about the whole "I'm looking to win trophies" shtick he's putting on is this idea that he's going to walk into these bigger teams and actually contribute to them winning trophies.


    He's not in the starting 11 of any of these "big clubs".


    If he said, "I'm looking to win trophies... even if it was watching from the bench"... well then I'd believe he has his head on straight

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  143. funny how it happens EVERY FU€K!NG TIME

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  144. Money conquers all

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  145. ...oh that makes sense now...
    ..id heard he applied for season tickets at man u and bayern....he didn't get them...


    ...so now it looks like he's gone the sitting on the bench route.....

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  146. FSG will sell him IMO. They are business oriented and won't care about emotions.

    i am starting to feel weird about this one way conversation RAY...DO YOU GET IT..!!

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  147. I believe Rodgers will be staying, Milner is going to be our marquee signing. Sterling goes to Chelsea and Vidal goes to Arsenal. Perfect!

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  148. I think he finally became the Chelsea fan we all knew he'd eventually be. We should probably scout their forums for nonsensical statements.

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  149. You will find lot of such statements I am afraid. Will have to specifically look for Jamican Africans.

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  150. yeah sounds like Liverpool

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  151. Nonsense ;-)

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  152. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/liverpool/11614509/Jamie-Carragher-tells-Liverpools-Raheem-Sterling-to-keep-mouth-shut-and-get-on-with-playing-football.html

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  153. I remember even SG was frustrated with the way his contracts were handled. 2 years back when he signed two year extension...he said that he wasn't happy as it took too long for FSG to approach him for extension. Few months back he said he would have signed an extension if Liverpool approached last season itself. I think there is definitely some issues with the way FSG handles contract situations.

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  154. Yokohama Liverpool Fan4:07 pm, May 21, 2015

    Yes Suarez greatly helped Rodger's net spend but he wasn't brought in by Rodgers. How many players has he brought in that we will probably/most likely lose money on?

    We've been slowly downgrading due to the pay structure and buy them young approach. I think we can say after 3 years our money ball approach hasn't helped.

    The few that have or quite likely will come good: Coutinho, Can and Sakho are players we need to hang onto and build the team around as Sterling is a 100% gonner with the recent comments by his prick of an agent.

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  155. sorry folks first comment went to the lord god that is jaimie to bless and send back down to the planet 'comment'....
    ...and all because the lady like 'kno*'......

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  156. Clearly money isn't the single issue here. How did it get so messy?
    IMO it's convenient to blame sterling / ward, I think BR's gob could do with shutting up once in a while. His comments haven't helped. For carragher to tell another professional to "shut up and get on with playing footbal." When there are tensions between both parties is silly & clearly doesn't help.

    If he ends up at Chelsea, trust me he won't be on the bench for too long, they need a right sided attacker. Cuadrado isn't up to it. Ideally, keep him for another season, hope it blows over or we sell him in a year. There will not be too much quality coming in over the summer.

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  157. sorry folks first comment went to the lord god that is ja*m*e to bless and send back down to the planet 'comment'....

    ...and all because the lady like 'kno*'......

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  158. What's the point of signing a 4 year deal, and expecting it to be renegotiated after 2 years?


    Look at how the club has resigned numerous players well in advance, including Suarez, Sturridge, Coutinho, Ibe.


    FSG is handling it as they see fit and I have zero issue with it. If you want to renegotiate after 2 years, sign a 2 year deal.

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  159. Only way FSG sell to a prem rival is if the money is through the roof.


    When is the last time FSG sold a player to a rival in the Prem?

    Torres for 50m.

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  160. I've tried to reply something 'witty' (allegedly) but guess what....?
    ...it got eaten by mr mod...

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  161. Prophetic is quite a good name but it could be seen as sarcastic if you're forced to change it to that because you got something wrong.


    I think you're OK though.......... but then I am always wrong

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  162. I certainly hope they stick to this principle.

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  163. ...wow how did you get that upside down i in fuc***....?

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  164. They did it last year with Suarez by ignoring the buyout clause that Arsenal supposedly met.


    The only reason why I think that never ended up going further was because it would have led to issues for Arsenal about how they even found out about confidential information.

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  165. ...Func, I think its appropriate not just convenient.....

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  166. Glen for sure

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  167. There are three people who have said things that they will probably regret:

    Rodgers - For opening his mouth at all (but ultimately, he didn't say anything bad... he just didn't need to say anything at all)


    Sterling - For giving the unauthorized interview that made him look incredibly foolish (and greedy)


    Ward - For this latest salvo in which he also looks bad.

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  168. Raheem's got to leave, as he's made his bed and there's no way back. All this B.S. about he wouldn't accept a 900k contract, is a red herring to show he's not all about the money (as he know he's got one foot out the door/he's burnt his bridges with the fans).

    If people like Thierry (who kids of Sterlings age group look upto), are calling him a bit of a t3at for the way he's handling this... As he's far from the finished article, to be acting this way.

    There is also a snippet from a article saying Aidy Ward words of encouragement have brought Raheem's game on???? Does Raheem think of Aidy in leather cat suit, when he's 1 one 1 with the keeper (cause some of Sterlings misses are boarding on Aspas territory).

    Happy to sell this kid, as his over all end product doesn't correlate to trophy winning mentality. He's potentially a fantastic player, but he's believing in the hype of the English media (so his talent has been exaggerated). His initial play is very good... his end product is a bag of Di.cks.

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  169. The silver lining is we won't be buying Berahino (same agent).

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  170. Sterling needs to be sold

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  171. Long time, no see, Chewy.

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  172. I really liked Ogbonna at Torino and was convinced he'd become a great defender but it hasn't really happened at Juve.

    I'd be interested in him, but only for less than £10m.

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  173. Been busy.... But had some gears that need grinding

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  174. So I guess Wrong is out of the question seeing as how it is already claimed. If I must suffer a name change at the mercy of Logan, that one would have been quite fitting. Pity.

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  175. He's obviously got the best interests of the club at heart then #Scouser

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  176. Whatever the case...welcome back to the insanity.

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  177. I tip my hat to you... you stayed on the topic of related article...kudos

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  178. Because its Rodgers job to be the media face of LFC so he is asked questions and he amnswers them with probably the info he has at that time mixed with a condiment of optimism...ie he'll probably sign and we've given him a great contract offer...(NB. example only)


    ...Sterling is NOT the face of LFC and doesn't NEED to give an unauthorised interview to media outlets airing his dirty alundry for all and certainly he doesn't need to Think he has to fight LFc in the open 'bare-knuckles' like....


    ...Aidy Ward is supposed to be the professional representative; and advisor akin to the status of a parent except with legal/pr/negotiating acumen...
    ...ask yourself - as a doctor - a professional - has he shown that...delve deep before you answer.....

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  179. Jafricans! Where's code?

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  180. Didn't get on with Pep either. I'd steer clear. Aging, injury-prone striker for big money after a stuttering season? No thanks.

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  181. I just love to talk about Ogbonna. Who doesn't!?

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  182. You mean exclamation?

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  183. Gladly take £35M and Cuadrado/Salah (or both plus the £35).

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  184. ..ok if you do the talking I'll cross the 't's and dot the 'i's.......

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  185. Yeah...great name.

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  186. Perhaps his potential is coming to fruition, maybe needed time in the PL on a more regular basis? Maybe give him a go, but he still makes the odd misjudgement.

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  187. No no...he wasn't upset about a 2 year deal...he was upset about the fact that FSG approached him very late for a 2 year extension. SG said he never had to wait so long for contract negotiations before.

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  188. ...I mean I'm taking the pi**.....;-)


    ...I't's just that some guys can get away with obvious murder..or new and inventive ways of bypassing old-moddy and there's me who struggles trying to edit umpteen times to get something through which is tame in comparison......

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  189. Yeah we'll show Ian Ayre, that you don't need to wear nip.ple tassels or ass.less chaps to negotiations to close deals...

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  190. ...I wouldn't be so sure - not that I want berahino - its just principles are nothing for agents when money gets involved......

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  191. Haha..well, now you know it.

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