9 Apr 2015

'Well Done!': Carra singles out £55m Liverpool trio for praise after 'massive result'

It wasn't pretty, but Liverpool are through to the FA Cup semi-final after a hard-fought victory over Blackburn Rovers, and after the game, Reds legend Jamie Carragher singled out three players for individual praise.

Reacting to LFC's 1-0 win, Carra enthused:

"Massive result for Liverpool. Well done Mignolet! [Cost: £9m].

"Sterling [£26m-rated] and Coutinho [£20m-rated] gave the attack the penetration it needed second half".


* Mignolet: His transformation since the turn of the year is admirable, and is a testament to his professionalism, and dedication to improvement. The Belgian made several important contributions against Blackburn, and without his saves, the game would've either gone to extra-time, or even been lost.

* Coutinho: Another sublime, match-winning goal from the Brazilian, but apart from that, he buzzed around without making much of an impact throughout the game. Still, it's his job to score and create goals, and he did that, and this specific goal may be his most important of the season.

* Sterling: A couple of excellent through-balls, but failed to score/assist again. It's now one goal in eleven games for Sterling, which is not good enough. Like Coutinho, he should be playing well against lower-league opposition; it's the bare minimum to be expected.

It's great that Liverpool achieved the victory, but in my view, Sterling and Coutinho don't deserve special praise for basically doing their jobs, especially against a team that:

* Was missing fourteen players for the game.
* Is 10th in the Championship league table.

Where were Coutinho and Sterling against Manchester United and Arsenal, the two games that really matter over the last month? It's all well and good doing the business against Blackburn, but failure to perform in those games now means that Liverpool's chances of qualifying for the Champions League are extremely slim.

No matter how Rodgers tries to spin it, winning the FA Cup won't make up for being out of Europe's most prestigious competition. The club will lose tens of millions in potential revenue, and it'll be even harder to sign the players needed to move the club forward.

If Liverpool finish outside the top four, and fail to win the FA Cup, this season will be classed as an abject failure, and the most galling thing is that Sterling will still demand a ridiculous pay-rise to stay at the club.

Unfortunately for Rodgers, I don't believe that winning the FA Cup will save his job. FSG sacked Kenny Dalglish after he won a domestic cup, and he is one of the club's most legendary figures.

With that in mind, they probably won't think twice about getting rid of Rodgers.

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202 comments:

  1. It show's how big the gap really is between the top 4 and 5 th downwards in the EPL .

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  2. Why do we constantly make the same mistakes in the transfer window. Who's idea is it to buy the likes of Lambert? We had champions league football to offer for the first time in 5 years and we scrape Southhampton for players

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  3. well said writings on the wall for BR unless he makes top four

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  4. I feel if FSG sack Rodgers LFC will regret it. I can see man city picking him up and the rest will be history. I would love to be top 4, of course. However I would rather we finish 5th and keep him rather then 4th and lose him.... I see sterling and hendo leave us if Rodgers gets sacked... He is building a squad and style and I can see us pushing for the league next year. With a good striker we could be wining this league. Look at the money spent by the others above, and yet we are not far off.

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  5. Well... It could be worse (cough cough La Liga cough cough)

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  6. Ancelotti is going to City.

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  7. Lambert came on in the last few minutes and he showed some potential for an excellent partnership with sterling. All through the game we struggled with Blackburn because we would get to the byline and cut the ball backwards. Needless to say all the passes got cut away easily (happy coutinho chose to shoot) This is because everyone knows we have no height. A bit like laborious arsenal not that long ago. We will increasingly be easy to play against unless we either have much more creative players on the field (yest only sterling and coutinho) or we have other types of players to mix it up. Lambert definitely fought for the ball harder than Balo ever did, and he wants so badly to play for us and score for us ...

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  8. At the end of the day Brendan has the ability to be one of the best managers in the world. His transfer dealings have not been great granted but befor you sack a manager you have to have a manager in mind who is better and will come in to the club. There are none who spring to mind, Klopp is in love with Dortmund and Simeone has a good thing going at Atletico.

    His ability with young players is another cause for wanting him to stay around. The improvement of Henderson, Sterling, Ibe, Sturridge, Flanagan, Coutinho and Luis Suarez has been incredible and I don't know if many other managers in world football could have got that improvement put of them.

    If FSG sack him we will be right back to square one and I do not want Rafa Benitez back before anyone suggests him. His transfer deals were far worse than Rodgers and no good players came through the academy under him. Anyone who believes selling Xabi Alonso and replacing him with Gareth Barry or Alberto Aquilani is a good idea should not be allowed anywhere near this football club.



    I am as disappointed as anyone with losing Suarez, missing out on Alexis Sanchez and

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  9. Cont. Probably missing out on the top 4 but if you can name me a manager who could do a better job with the players we have who is available then please enlighten me.

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  10. And then they will sack him next year. Typical real/ typical man City.... Who will be the next Alex Ferguson who dominates a decade if clubs want short term instead of long term. Be carful what you wish for, just ask Newcastle fans. I seem to remember aresnal fans calling for Wenger's head, now they could win the league.

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  11. for £20M the price we paid for the king Luis Suarez, after coutinho's brilliant pass which split the defence against arsenal for 20M markovic should be sticking that in the back of the net. ive heard some ridiculous comments that it was the right decision but in football you cannot be caught in 2 minds. if he was played in and looked at the keeper for the shot he should have shot, even if he missed so be it. instead he was scared and passed to sterling who wasnt expecting it, and the pass was half hearted. i would have prefered he shot. he cost 20m and should be proving his worth. i knew we would get that from markovic. hes scored 3 goals and will probably score 1 more towards the end of the season to equal his poor tally at benfica 4 goals. i remember against middlesborough lallana did some good work, put markovic on a plate and then he passed to sterling when he wernt expecting and ruin the chance. if we win FA Cup and get no top 4 this season will be a disaster for the specific reasons


    *since Rodgers has joined he promised he would add a marquee signing to the squad and since we still have not bought this player despite spending over £200m. he tried for Willian, Mkhtiryan but since then hes added poor overatted players like Markovic, Lallana, Allen and lets not even go into it.


    *if were going to compete its pointless buying players who are not going to be LFC standard. we are not a midtable club. when we dont arrive in the top 4, as a club we are dissapointed. but if we target players like Markovic for £20m, Alberto for £9M etc who are no better than the players in our academy then we cannot complain.


    *even if it means we miss out on our main targets like Sanchez etc, go for Pedro. smash your wage bill. do what you gotta do. you dont get ripped off by a premier league rival like southampton who have near enough the exact same amount of points as us, and pay them 70M for players who cant commit to top4 statistics. lallana has been shockingly poor.


    in the summer we need to try to buy players like Julian Draxler(world cup winner and CL performer) £30M, Pedro(world cup, cl and la liga winner) £35M and Luciano Vietto for £20M. and moussa sissokho who is an experinced midfielder and far better than Pjanic

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  12. Agree man, Benitez was great in Europe no doubt but his football bored me to tears at times.

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  13. Do you really want to go down that road ?

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  14. Mr. Point Of View3:38 pm, April 09, 2015

    To be honest ! I tot last game will BR last game in charge. I expect we lose. We were replicate same fate as Tottenham so i think BR will be same fate as AVB

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  15. NO manager can attract top players .
    TOP Players move for MONEY and GLORY not a manager

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  16. Never ,BR will be in charge of Liverpool next season .

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  17. I could be hired as the next Man City manager and we'd still get top players.


    The manager becomes more irrelevant to a player's decision making on where to play when the money is introduced into the equation.


    The manager is nothing more than a tie-breaker at that point

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  18. Not really, but surely the gap between City and Burnley is smaller than that of Atletico and Granada?

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  19. 1) Since Hendo has been Captain, we've lost only 2 games, Utd and Arsenal. I'd call that consistent influence.
    2) You act like passing sideways is a bad thing. Wingers have to get the ball somehow...

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  20. Or Nevuhgonnaquackdacode

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  21. Im with you on this one !

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  22. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:03 pm, April 09, 2015

    FSG do not care about top 4 but top 10


    that is why they sell their best player every year
    and buy mid table pl players like lallana and Downing


    and unknown players like Markovic

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  23. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:05 pm, April 09, 2015

    158m
    on


    players we bought from the middle of the pl so midtable teams or relegation teams


    Carroll,Lambert,Downing,Allen,Henderson,Adam,Enrique,Lovren,Mignolet,


    158m ,if Athleticos owners and management had that they would win cl

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  24. Shamsy 69 ........if the kids are united .........

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  25. Getting quoted in the national rags now Jamie....

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  26. No manager can attract top players? That is just rubbish.


    If Mourinho had to become our manager he would attract top players without a shadow of a doubt.

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  27. I think alot of Spanish teams manage to punch well above their weight considering how much more money Barca and Real take... They are probably lucky if they even bring in as much as a Championship side.. In that they definately perform better..

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  28. So Hazard is going to move to us when he knows that there is no guarantee of success even if we break the bank for his wages and offer him more than Chelsea? With Rodgers at the helm ;-o

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  29. He definately deserves the opportunity to make the right signings this summer, and try and get the team playing well again... He has earned that much atleast... With a new manager, it's only going to start all over again.

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  30. For how long ,with no CL and wages of 80p/w ?

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  31. They certainly didn't flock to City for Mark Hughes when they first started spending...

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  32. Many did just that when they went to a fledling city ubder Hughes...

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  33. Take no notice...

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  34. I don't know what hendo you are watching but I see a player who always get more the 7/10 every match. I see him organising and taking responsibility..... I fully disagree with you on that one.

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  35. you don't know anything about FSG if you think they don't care about titles/trophies...

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  36. Markovic was only unknown to you, Many knew who he was before he came to LFC, Mourinho wanted him, Valencia wanted him... other managers have raved about him for years... Just you that knows nothing of the foreign leagues or players aside from the obvious..

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  37. When your top, everyone is from lower table teams... how do the league champions ever do it?

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  38. Even if Rodgers somehow escapes the sack, he ain't going to get another £120m to spend at the start of next season unless he sells Sterling for the same amount as what we got for Suarez which is not going to happen.


    Most were arguing with me that FSG were going to make money available in January this year and I continuously said FSG would not make a single penny available. What happened?


    As it is, we have loads of players on loan, a massive squad without those players on loan.


    Who are we going to sell and how much will we get for those players?


    With no CL, having to get rid of players first and build up a kitty then who is Rodgers going to bring in?

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  39. A new manager shouldn't have to a better job with the players we have, we should have better players..do we wait and let Rodgers buy more less than average players?

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  40. Nevergonnacrack50+Logan's

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  41. It would be an easy question if BR was the one making all the transfers, but its not. We have a committee. More often than not, I feel like the transfers we end up making are compromises among the members, rather than unanimous agreements, thus the quality of players is lacking.

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  42. 4 goals in his last 5 league games...

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  43. Totally agree

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  44. Been a long time ......(No I'm not dead)I don't think that FSG will sack Rogers because the agreement that he had with them was that he'd be challenging for Top 4 and the Premier league after 4 or 5 seasons.
    The remit was buy young upcoming talent and challenge after 4 to 5 years.
    The mistake as I see it was not securing Van Gaal as the Director of football, with his contacts and influence to secure players.
    BR despite his self confidence needs an experienced influential DOF.
    Money isn't the main driver for players to go to a club there are other factors such as, will they win anything, whose already there, will I get 1st team football.
    Any player would want to go to Barcelona ,Real Madrid, Bayern Munich only to play with the best and see if your good enough.
    The reality and the evidence is that the Premier League is NOT the best league in the world simply because how many of the player here would get into any of those those teams I mentions 1st team?
    Not Hazard, Not Silva,Not Costa, Not Di Maria, Not Sanchez the evidence is staring us in the face.
    Even now PSG proved it in the CL league English clubs are MILES OFF.

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  45. Well Borini was his and Joe Allen was his.the way he talked them up when he bought them was sickening! But I know what you're saying. And whoever is responsible for 90% of the signings needs to be sacked let it be Rodgers or whoever. .

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  46. I have never seen this agreement you have mentioned about challenging after 4 to 5 years? Mind posting a link?


    Tom Werner was asked the following question back in February

    Q. How important is it to the club in general - and Brendan Rodgers in particular perhaps - that the team maintains this momentum and makes the top four to qualify again for Champions League football?

    A. “I want to make sure I give great credit to Brendan and his coaching staff for what he has done. We have to look at not just the play each week, but the positive direction that is going on at the club.

    “I don’t know if the word is critical – it certainly is important to make top four but it’s important that we continue this positive momentum.

    “We’ll all be disappointed if we don’t make top four but I’ll be disappointed if we don’t win the FA Cup for Steven Gerrard in his last year at the club.

    “And not just for Steven but for our fans.

    “It’s important that we continue to progress in the right direction.



    From the Liverpool Echo. Link in the reply to this post.

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  47. http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tom-werner-exclusive-raheem-sterling-8645508

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  48. In all honesty even if we do win the league I think B Rodgers and the pathetic transfer committee has to be scrapped/shipped out.
    Also the owners need to change their wage structure if they seriously want to make the club a serious force in world football again as there is no way we can recruit world class players and offer them peanuts compared to what the teams we are expected to be competing with at the top will be offering. Another reason the a lot of world class players do not come to our club is because we do not regularly make top 4 year in year out. The likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City consistently are in Champions league
    And its comical how so many people are going against Sterling(20) as he will not sign new deal, he has two and half years on his contract still. He is 20, he is learning. But the key attributes he has and his fearless ways is why all the top teams in Europe want him.
    I am hoping we win the Fa Cup and new manager is brought in to clear out these dead wood average players : 12 of them to be exact:
    GK: B Jones CB: S Coates CB: K Toure RB: G Johnson
    RB: A Wisdom LB: J Enrique CM: J Clue/Useless Allen
    AM: L Alberto FD: F Borini FD: I Aspas FD: R Lambert
    FD: M Balotelli
    Out of those 12 players that desperately need to be shipped out this summer and off the wage bill , seven of them B Rodgers has brought to club and they have simply not been good enough.
    The thing is annoying with the transfer committee and B Rodgers is the fact that we miss world class player, don't go for player a level below world class but go for potential or just dead wood average all the time.
    How Markovic is £20M player I will never ever know, he doesn't even look like £5M player in Premiership.
    Where J Mourinho spent £58M assembling the best centre midfield partnership of Matic and Fabregas
    B Rodgers wastes £15M on J Allen when he is not even £7M player.
    And B Rodgers love affair with Allen is why Henderson has had to play right wing back over course of season and E Can is playing as a RCB.
    When both of them are head and shoulders better than J Clueless Allen
    I think the only Liverpool player I actually thought was pony over the years in comparison to J Allen was Biscan, but at least Biscan scored some goals for us.
    How B Rodgers sold D Agger and P Reina in summer was comical?
    Agger is on par with Skrtel and Sakho he is much better than K Toure and all the other defenders we have at club.
    P Reina may have become very inconsistent over the last three years but he is still a much better than S Mignolet.
    Whether we win FA Cup or Not, The transfer committee and B Rodgers should be scrapped/shipped out. As they both have been comical over last three seasons and not wanting any more dead wood average players come through Anfield in Summer 2015, we have 12 to clear out this summer instead.

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  49. It's out there logan I'm not sure if I can post the link but google what the objectives were when they appointed Rogers

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  50. It's irrelevant since we aren't going to pay him enough.


    But take a hypothetical situation and let's say we double his salary from Chelsea, of course he's going to seriously consider it. Just as any employee would.


    It's not like he is moving to Siberia like Anzhi (or was it Zenit) had to do when they overpaid and went into financial hell as a result.

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  51. Don't bother. There's no use. He's been on this top 10 thing for a few weeks. No talking him out of it.

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  52. Mourinho = success = trophies wherever he has been.


    This thing about £80k a week is a load of rubbish. We wanted to sign Sanchez and I highly doubt he would have been on £80k a week if he had joined us.

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  53. In my opinion that's because they weren't established as serious spenders just yet. They were just starting out with the new owners.

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  54. Painfully average.. But let's say it was down to 'new formation', key players missing and Sakho sub early on. Oh and have mention Brendan not knowing where to put Couts..

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  55. I have done a search on John W Henry's interview when Rodgers was appointed and it said nothing about 4 to 5 years and I have found nothing else.


    If there is no proof then it cannot be taken as true.

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  56. True it can't be taken as truth but it depends on what the objectives were for this season.
    I suspect that CL was the minimum requirement THIS season not last.
    What FSG will do about the likely failure of not meeting that objective is another thing.
    Either way my question is this :


    If they dismiss BR who do they replace him with ?
    Do they change there approach as in not buying young talent and go for broke ?


    Like it or not Manchester United spent money and got an experienced Manager and we see the results.

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  57. Mourinho has had much easier financial restrictions this time around due to FFP. He was able to sell two players for 90m that he didn't buy in the first place. So even though they can't spend like drunken sailors anymore, they had so many quality players to begin with that he's starting with a surplus in funds.


    A surplus that no one else in the world has access to.

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  58. If you read what Werner said in February, where has he given any indication that Rodgers job is safe?


    Rodgers said in December last year that his job was on the line. You think they have been sitting back and not looking at other options this season.


    Spent almost £120m and will be happy with 5th, 6th or 7th?


    Time to take of those rose tinted glasses.

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  59. It does not matter what anyone wants to say.


    Mourinho is a proven winner and will always attract the best players. It is a fact.

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  60. Do you think the fact that he can offer larger salaries than most teams has nothing to do with attracting players?


    I'll put it to you this way... if money had nothing to do with it, then players would be regularly taking pay-cuts to go to play for him. I assure you... they aren't.

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  61. SAF won a championship with Aberdeen in the Scottish league not sure if Wenger won anything with Monaco or not but not phenomenal CV's

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  62. Didn't Fergie win a European cup with Aberdeen?

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  63. The way he talks up our existing players is sickening.

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  64. Football is all about money today. How much was Suarez earning before he left LFC?


    This thing about FSG not willing to offer massive wages is a myth. They have always said, if it makes sense then they will do it.


    Would Sanchez have been under any wage under £100k a week if he had decided to join us?

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  65. You're going off in different directions here.


    I never claimed FSG were not wiling to offer raises.


    Suarez wanted to go to Spain because his wife's family live in Barcelona. In order to convince him to stay here, we would have had to significantly pay him more than whatever Barca were offering, and we wouldn't have received the 75m in the fee.


    Sanchez wanted to go to London. In order to get him to come here, we would have had to significantly offer more money than Arsenal.


    This is not that complicated.


    I want to see Mourinho offer someone 50k per week, and Rodgers offer 100k per week, and let's see where that player decides to go.


    The difference is that we don't offer large contracts from the outset when we sign a player. We offer raises and incentives. If they play well they get paid. All is well and good until another team comes along and makes our raises/incentives (non-guaranteed money) and turns it into their base salary (guaranteed).


    I offer you 100k per week. Someone else offers you 65k per week, but you can make an additional 50k via incentives. Barring some crazy circumstance (i.e. playing in Siberia), almost everyone is going to take the 100k upfront.

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  66. Leave Chelsea when he is already earning more than enough and winning trophies to come to LFC and face mediocrity for a few extra thousand pounds?


    Really?


    Sterling has turned down £100k a week which he confirmed in his interview with the BBC. It is a massive amount to turn down but he know for a fact that he can go to another club now and win trophies irrespective if they offer him more.


    So he can either accept £100k a week at LFC or move to another club and earn £100k a week or more and win trophies.


    It is not rocket science.


    There is no bloody way Hazard would join us under Rodgers. NO WAY.

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  67. It is all hearsay.


    Sanchez would have been on £100k plus a week if he had joined us. Why do you want to argue?

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  68. Logan, *takes off rose tinted glasses* financially it will cost Liverpool a lot of money after signing a long contract. Additionally, the purchases of players is NOT only Rogers decision (something I bleated on about for ages on here). It will cost more money to hire a new Manager who will want his won back room staff and new players.
    The fundamental reason Rogers wont be sacked is money. *puts rose tinted glasses back on*

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  69. Your logic only applies though if the money is flat (which you don't/can't know to be the case).


    It's a big assumption.

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  70. This is a one eyed vision when looking at things.


    What will the implications be for FSG if we do not make top 4 next season with Rodgers in charge? Missing out on CL again is going to cost the club a hell of a lot more than replacing Rodgers.

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  71. Is Hazard going to win the league next season if he decided to join LFC for more money?

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  72. Rodgers clearly stated that Sanchez wanted to go to London. Wenger even alluded to this as recently as February. And the Echo even strengthened the argument by claiming the player's wife wanted London and was a major factor in the decision.


    Suarez's wife's family is in Barcelona.


    These are irrefutable statements, arguments, and facts.

    You're argument has zero backup. You claim that Mourinho can get top players because of who he is and his past success without taking into account the amount of money he can offer as well (which is significant and nothing to ignore)

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  73. But if Rodgers has stated that we were after Sanchez and we did all we could to sign him then how can that be zero backup?


    IF we did sign Sanchez, how much would he be earning at LFC?

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  74. A said a European cup. Didn't mean the big one. European cup winners cup.

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  75. I know but at least some of them are decent players . he spoke about Borini like he was going to be a star!

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  76. Chelsea had first refusal for half the price If my memory serves me right.

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  77. Fergie took 6 years to win anything decent at Man Utd

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  78. Only the likes of Utd or Chelsea or City will spend even half that this summer give me a break. Our squad cost £100m less than the nearest of those clubs they can splash out on big names because they have lots of top players in the squad already

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  79. No way would any manager get that long now. He was inches from the sack

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  80. Well obviously you had to correct yourself.


    Both the competitions he won is a once off game?

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  81. To be honest they haven't really even done as well as we did without Euro games and sp[ent a hell of a lot more from a hell of a better starting point with a hell of a bigger wage bill. Rooney is on £300k- and we're moaning about our players looking for £100-50k pw. How much is Van Percy and Falcao on? Di Maria? Yet we are trying to compete with them head to head

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  82. They will spend more because they are in the CL.


    It is simple mathematics really. Now we will play catch up again without a superstar like Suarez.


    We could not even replace Suarez with a player of similar quality with almost £120m and CL on offer last summer.


    What is going to be different at the start of next season under Rodgers compared to this season?

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  83. Well no I was referring to that, it's not my fault you took it wrong. I didn't know what the competition used to be called.
    Jesus your pissy today.

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  84. Like Spurs, we needed to be in the top 4 more than once to convince top players that we were a viable alternative to the perenial CL clubs with deeper pockets. Which is why I was hoping against hope that we did it this year, ideally putting Utd out into the Europa Leage so they could have a taste of the medicine we had

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  85. They are ahead of us. They have been worse than us this season but are still ahead. That is all that matters.


    Roles reversed Van Gaal at LFC and Rodgers at UTD?

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  86. UTD are still a powerhouse whether we like it or not.


    UTD have been out of Europe for one season.


    How is Rodgers going to change that?

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  87. He doesn't have to. Nothing will stop Utd having 76,000 stadium and massive commercial revenue. But if they had finished out of the top 4 for 2 successive seasons, we would have been able to compete for the top talent .


    How would your choice of manager change that? It's not about the manager, it's about CL status

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  88. I'd be very surprised if Rodgers goes at the end of this season, barring a horrific downturn in form. I think if we finish top 6, we'll be okay.

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  89. So how did we achieve 2nd last season with UTD finishing 7th?

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  90. And finish where under Rodgers next season?

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  91. Brilliant Attacking. And an excellent performance from our manager that season. Plus a total donkey in charge at OT...

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  92. But they got rid of that Donkey and now are 3rd this season.


    We went from 2nd to where?

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  93. Nobody can even hazard a guess till we see the squads. Not even Crystal Ball Logan..

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  94. Sanchez wanted to go to London. Rodgers stated we did all we could. Doesn't mean all we could is enough (obviously it wasn't because he's not here).


    In order to convince him to come to Liverpool, we would have had to make it worth his while (i.e. offer significantly more money than Arsenal).


    Whatever he LFC offered, it wasn't enough to force him to bypass Arsenal & London.

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  95. Chelsea, Arsenal, City and UTD will all have the upper hand with CL football on offer.


    Rodgers is going to need a Suarez to pull of anohet 13/14 and that is not coming. Plain and simple.

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  96. 5th probably. lost 3 places. They went from 1st to 7th even with CL status and all that money.


    Fact is BR will have achieved more finishing 2 points from the PL in 2nd than Van Gaal will this if he doesn't finish closer to the PL top spot this season.

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  97. Odds are he wouldn't win the league.


    But if LFC offered enough money to him and to Chelsea, there's a chance he'd consider making the move.


    And that goes for any player.


    Player X makes 150k per week with Club A, a consistent top team in the league.


    Club B is not as good as Club A.


    Club B offers 400k per week to Player X.


    I'm quantifying as an example. It doesn't mean it's realistic. But your argument is that no amount of money can convince a player to leave a good team to go to a less-talented team.


    Simply put, everyone has a price.

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  98. Which was all true last year yet you refuse to accept that BR was excellent as our manager last year.




    When Mourinho does it it's not all the brilliant players he had, it's all down to genius management, but when BR does it, it's all down to ONE player he had ( who presumably, ignored everything BR said)

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  99. Mike, there's no point.


    Logan will take anything that is even remotely positive towards Rodgers and twist it to fit his negative narrative.


    Logan doesn't want Rodgers here next season, and he's entitled to his opinion, but nothing will change his mind.


    We could win the league this year and Logan would find a way to blame Rodgers for not winning by more.

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  100. I refused that Rodgers was excellent as our manager last year?


    That is a lie. I backed Rodgers all the way in his first two seasons so as usual ther is shite talking about me.

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  101. Prrof. OMG. Get real.

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  102. You make a claim that you backed him and that people are making baseless claims about you.


    It's pretty easy... if people are wrong about those claims, prove them wrong.


    I imagine if you supported him as ardently as you imply, it should be fairly easy to find one (literally, just one) instance of your support.

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  103. Yes he did. European cup winners cup and the European super cup

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  104. Ha ha.


    Did you not see me post endless articles from Anfield Index last season about how we killed teams?


    Even Pete who has decided to walk away from this site will confirm this.


    Lies absolute lies about me. Simple.

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  105. I said you refuse to concede that BR is an excellent manger and argue that he is poor an inadequate. One does not suddenly become a bad manager which is therefore what you now claim has happened to BR


    Backed him ? OMG

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  106. All I have stated is that he is not the man to take this club forward.


    If you can prove otherwise then please do so instead of talking shite.

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  107. Anfield who?


    I am going by what I've seen from you HERE.


    I have no idea how two faced you may or may not be if you're now saying you back him.


    That simply makes you a fair weather fan....

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  108. Falcao to Monaco..... I rest my case.

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  109. Obviously I did not see it.


    Again... just one link. One instance.


    You say they are lies. I imagine since you state how strongly you supported him in the past, that it would be pretty easy for you to prove that.

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  110. You are going from what you have seen from me here?


    So where were you last season?

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  111. Bing bang boom touchdown!

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  112. Laughable statement. You have ended I would guess, scores of comments with an anti Rodgers diatribe. You've developed a reputation for it for pity's sake.


    It's risible that you should challenge anybody on such a ridiculous claim. You have called BR NO END of derisive names.


    In fact, I give up. OK you now agree that the excellent manger of last year is still managing our club only a few months later but is suddenly no longer fit for purpose.


    Very consistent.

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  113. Give him credit... he is consistently inconsistent

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  114. Also, why would you use Pete as a source when he's not here.

    The idea of a source/evidence is to back up your argument. A source that can't back up your claim is not very useful.

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  115. It's unbelievable.


    Loganlfc espousing how big a BR supporter he was




    Heard it all now

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  116. Put this quote in the search function of this site.
    --------
    Well I have every right to be positive. Look at where the club is compared to when Rodgers took over.

    Give me reasons to agree with your 'reality'...

    --------------


    This was a reply I made to Jaimie K 10 months ago defensing Rodgers.


    All this shite about me are simple lies.

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  117. ***


    Put this quote in the search function of this site.
    --------
    Well I have every right to be positive. Look at where the club is compared to when Rodgers took over.

    Give me reasons to agree with your 'reality'...

    --------------

    This was a reply I made to Jaimie K 10 months ago defending Rodgers.

    All this shite about me are simple lies.

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  118. Eat humble pie


    Put this quote in the search function of this site.
    --------
    Well I have every right to be positive. Look at where the club is compared to when Rodgers took over.

    Give me reasons to agree with your 'reality'...

    --------------

    This was a reply I made to Jaimie K 10 months ago defending Rodgers.

    All this shite about me are simple lies.

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  119. So Mike Aitcheson.


    Where are you now?

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  120. Lies lies lies.

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  121. And LFCNYC74 where are you?

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  122. I'm glad you found a quote where you supported the manager after he helped us finish 2nd in the league.


    I guess that settles it...

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  123. All that shows is that you change as soon as the going gets tough


    Very commendable.


    There are many search phrases I could use to prove your anti Rodgers bias. Would you like some?

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  124. Guess that settles the fact that shite is being blabbered about me.

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  125. Eto'o to Anzhi, Hulk to Zenit... There's plenty examples of it

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  126. Shows that you are talking shite.

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  127. Sure, you could look at it that way.


    Or you could look at it as Mike has, which is to say that you support the manager when he finishes 2nd, but you jump ship when the manager struggles. Which is clearly what is elicited when referencing the quote you provided from last year and combining that with your general attitude towards Rodgers this season.

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  128. I quote Mike Aitcheson

    "It's unbelievable.

    Loganlfc espousing how big a BR supporter he was"



    You lose.

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  129. I don't think you quite understand the meaning of that statement if that's your "checkmate" line

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  130. of course you wouldn't.

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  131. Ok... what does it mean?

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  132. The world doesn't spin around you Logan


    I'm right here.


    Now, one poxy link to you actually saying something decent about BR proves what? That you thought BR was great but now you think you were wrong?


    That you haven't posted time after time blaming BR for ANYTHING and EVERYTHING negative about LFC?


    That you don't have the courage of your convictions or the ability to justify your biased and often unfathomnable babblings?


    Which is it Oh mighty one?

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  133. And you still ask?

    "Loganlfc espousing how big a BR supporter he was

    Heard it all now"



    WHEN I HAVE PROVEN THE OPPOSITE?

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  134. Saying you were a fan of something/someone when it was going well and that you're no longer a fan of something/someone now that it's going bad...


    That's not something to be proud of.

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  135. Excsuses.

    "Loganlfc espousing how big a BR supporter he WAS"



    Past tense?

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  136. Look, I'll make it VERY simple for you.


    I NEVER SAID you weren't a BR supporter or that you never posted anything positive about BR.


    If someone did, that wasn't me.


    I was laughing at the thought that you, probably BR's biggest critic on this site, should make a big show of trying to describe yourself as someone who thought he was a great manager just a few months ago, and thinks that it's a positive thing to show how fair weather you are as a supporter of him

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  137. Go read again mate.

    "Loganlfc espousing how big a BR supporter he was

    Heard it all now"

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  138. Lies lies lies.

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  139. Maybe, just maybe they didn't think there was anyone available that would be reasonable value.. LFC weren't the only club not to spend in January...

    People keep talking of the £120m Brendan spent last summer, and while he did spend that much, the amount that came out of the clubs coffers was a very small £35m 'ish.....

    Using that as a reason to argue that FSG wouldn't put their hands in their pockets doesn't stand.... I would be more inclined to wonder why it was that they didn't spend more last season, IF I was to question anything, which I'm not...

    I think FSG are at a stage now where they realise that they have to back the playing team now, because the squad has been built, now it is just about first team players....I also believe they are just as invested in the clubs on field success as we are... They understand that winning on the pitch is key to success off it...

    The redevelopment of Anfield is testament to that... Why build more seats if they don't expect to fill them, and they aren't going to fill them if we're not winning and competing.....

    There will be money, but the question is.... are they backing Brendan (I hope they are) or another manager....

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  140. So Mike Aitcheson I ask you...

    Where are you now?

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  141. Suarez signed a new contract at LFC that would have become active had he stayed worth £200,000p/w.... Barca offered him £160,000p/w... as far as I know from what I've read....

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  142. See my reply below. Are you REALLY that simple minded?


    Constantly criticising him whilst telling everybody how big a fan he WAS is the point I am making


    The past tense is used to show you abject about turn as soon as we were no longer top 3.


    That makes you laughable in my humble opinion, and even more so because it was YOU that pointed it out. It would have been more impressive had you ALWAYS showed your dislike for him as our manager.


    That would at least be consistent. You changed your views almost indecently quickly and went SO FAR the other way as to make your previous comments comical...

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  143. "I NEVER SAID you weren't a BR supporter or that you never posted anything positive about BR."

    So what were you saying

    "Loganlfc espousing how big a BR supporter he was

    Heard it all now"



    Absolute BS end of the story.

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  144. Your proficiency and enlightenment seems to be unlimited. Ferguson won the European Cup Winners' Cup with Aberdeen after beating out six other teams including B. Munich and Real Madrid.

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  145. Still here . Try refreshing every now and again. That little curly arrow, in case you didn't know...

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  146. I thought the page is dynamic on its own right!

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  147. I read an interesting article in the telegraph about Chelsea and Mourinho... something about FFP, and how increasing the wages on offer to certain players has acyually worked favourably for the club in FFP terms, and ultimately giving them more money to spend... You should find it if you fancy an interesting read.... Just type in these keywords..... Chelsea, FFP, Pogba, and it's the first article that comes up...

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  148. It is, but there are sometimes posts queued above or below

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  149. Caught you out. It is as simple as that.

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  150. If Chelsea sign Pogba, they will won the league until Pogba retires.

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  151. A camel is a horse designed by a committee

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  152. Are you serious? What exactly have you caught me doung? Using the past tense to prove you're a turncoat? Blimey, everybody else can differentiate between me using the past tense to prove your inconsistent drivel and me saying you never ever said anything in support of BR.


    I'M MAKING FUN OF THE FACT.


    Is this STILL all over your head? That quote of yours doesn't show that I said you never supported BR... Quite the opposite. Yet you claim some kind of victory?


    WTF?

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  153. ***
    "I NEVER SAID you weren't a BR supporter or that you never posted anything positive about BR."

    So what were you saying

    "Loganlfc espousing how big a BR supporter he was

    Heard it all now"

    Absolute BS end of the story.

    THE END.

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  154. This is too complicated for you, poor lamb


    I've posted about this 4 times now. I was making the VERY POINT that you were a supporter when things were going well, but turn radically the other way within WEEKS when it went badly. You were your OWN exeutioner which to me made it laughable


    THAT'S what I was saying


    Try reading it slowly. Ask a grown up for help if it still doesn't make sense


    Blimey, it's easier to reason with a toddler

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  155. I read that he's making 10m per year there. Which comes out just under 200k per week.


    It's like I said before... if LFC want to attract a player who wants to go elsewhere (for any reason non-monetary related), then LFC will need to offer significantly more money that the player essentially can't refuse.


    Suarez wanted to go to Barcelona specifically for family reasons. He wasn't going to play for free there, but Barca had the upper hand where all they essentially had to do was come close to whatever he was making at LFC.

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  156. "Loganlfc espousing how big a BR supporter he was"



    Read again my friend. The above is past tense.

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  157. Thanks. Will do.

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  158. Do you know what espousing means? Look it up

    It means :
    to adopt or support (a cause, belief, or way of life)

    So..


    I am saying you DID support BR you complete....


    NOT that you DIDN'T.



    Unbelievable

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  159. Regarding your comment about a toddler.


    Go f*** yourself,


    Jaimie, you keep on knocking me about such behaviour?

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  160. So I dis not last season? Shoot himself in the foot.

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  161. "Loganlfc espousing how big a BR supporter he was"

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  162. I think it's time for this discussion to meet its final resting place.


    There's no getting through.

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  163. So there is a difference between he was and he is?

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  164. And that's why. It's well within the rules for me to comment on how difficult it is to reason with you, especially since I posted my reply to you multiple times only to receive the same response.


    Now if i called you a toddler, that would be different


    Quality reply by the way. PUT me right in my place.


    Lose the argument, resort to expletives.


    Best compliment of all to my points if you ask me..

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  165. I have never heard that before, possible but I doubt it.

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  166. There really isn't is there?


    He really does think that my use of past tense to describe when he was a BR supporter as opposed to now, as a BR critic, proves something..


    Especially since I never denied he supported BR in the first place!

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  167. Apparently the European Champions Cup (Europa Cup)and the Super Cup (Club world cup) plus 3 league titles

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  168. OK, I'm going to have one more try to explain why it was in the past tense.

    May 2014:

    LFC near top of PL Logan is big fan of BR.
    Logan posts positive things about BR

    Sept 2014:

    LFC have nightmare start Logan not a fan of BR

    Logan starts moaning about BR. A Lot.

    Nov 2014:

    LFC well off the pace. Logan wants BR sacked

    Logan writes post after post with anti BR punchlines

    9th April 2014:
    Loganlfc espousing how big a BR supporter he WAS (I quote)

    Mike Aitcheson thinks that's laughable, given how much of a fan Logan WAS


    Logan goes off the reservation, repeatedly emphasizing the use of the past tense. Claims Mike says he never supported BR. Posts proof that he did, thereby proving Mike's case for him


    Checkmate.

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  169. To think I didn't believe you when you said it was pointless debating anything rationally...

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  170. The funny part is that I didn't even tell him that he didn't support BR.

    All I said was that if he claimed he was this huge supporter and that all these lies were being spewed about him, then he should prove that they are in fact lies.

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  171. It's the most rational thing you've said all day :)

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  172. Impostor! The real Twistadee posts ages! :)

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  173. That was intense

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  174. its me, trying to cut bad habit out.

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  175. Even if we win the league the manager still needs to be sacked... No arguing with that logic

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  176. Haha you ask for proof all the time for the most ridiculous things yet tell him to get real?

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  177. You have my respect for having the tolerance to see that through to the end. I'd probably have given my phone the bounce test about ten posts ago

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  178. That may be a habit. Doesn't mean it's bad.

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  179. I don't know, but all I'm saying is I doubt FSG will sack him.

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  180. Oh feck off Logan. You annoy everyone.

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  181. LOL, 'prove it' is one of your biggest fallback lines.

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  182. It's not worth it, arguments with Logan go around in bigger circles than the curly refresh button

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  183. Might I make a suggestion:


    When posting a long response, put a blank line between the paragraphs.


    Will make it easier to read

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  184. I cannot see LFC sacking Rodgers even if he doesn't get top four or win the FA Cup. FSG want a settled management team after all the upheaval since they arrived and with the Anfield development on going they will want stability not more question marks, better the devil you know etc.


    James Pearce from the Echo who has alot of close links to the club and one of the few journalists who i believe when it comes to LFC has also suggested the same in a recent interview he gave that Rodgers job is safe no matter how the rest of the season pans out.

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  185. Legend King Kenny spent poorly in the transfer window also and won us the Carling Cup and even he was rightly sacked. B Rodgers winning Fa Cup will not cover all the cracks and flaws over this poor season. Simple

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  186. Had too many people on here moaning so trying not too do it as much , points still the same. Still need most of the dead wood average players shipped off clubs books as soon as possible: 12


    B Jones GK K Toure CB S Coates CB


    RB G Johnson RB A Wisdom LB J Enrique


    CM J Allen AM L Alberto FD F Borini


    FD I Aspas FD R Lambert FD M Balotelli


    Those 12 players are simply not good enough for club, they should be replaced by 9 class quality players.


    A Begovic GK of Stoke Upgrade on B Jones and competition for S Mignolet


    T Alderwierld CB Of A Madrid Upgrade on K Toure and competition for M Skrtel


    M Montoya RB Of Barcelona Upgrade on G Johnson and A Wisdom, competition for J Flanagan


    A Robertson LB Of Hull Upgrade on J Enrique, Competition for A Moreno


    M Schneiderlin DM Of Southampton Upgrade on J Allen, Competition for L Leiva


    Marquee Signing: M Verratti Of PSG Or Koke Of A Madrid CM, One of these should be brought into club as S Gerrard's Successor


    J Montero LW / LWF Of Swansea Upgrade on L Alberto and would bring more class, creativity, goals pace, quality and speed to attack and competition with L Markovic.


    C Benteke FD Of A Villa to replace R Lambert and M Balotelli at club Upgrade on both of them together and to compete with D Origi


    L Vietto FD Of Villareal to replace I Aspas and F Borini Upgrade on both of them together and to compete with D Sturridge

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  187. 100% bro, people talking about rafa. but if anchelotti doesnt win a trophy, he is off to city for sure.

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  188. I really don't mind that Logan has an opposing view to myself. What I can't put up with is the way he tries to ignore all the points made in a discussion, how he repeats things ad nauseum and appears to believe that he's never wrong or mistaken.
    When I have a view and something changes it, I put my hand up and admit my mistake.
    Seems some others can't or won't.

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  189. Well that particular one ended with checkmate. But usually, yes.

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  190. I know mate. It's the repetitiveness that really tries my patience

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