31 Oct 2014

Lame Excuse: BR explains why he wasted £20m on LFC 'passenger'. Contradiction?

After another ineffective performance against Swansea, Liverpool attacker Lazar Markovic remains under pressure to justify the £20m price tag on his head. Brendan Rodgers is seemingly not worried about the Serb's failure to make an impact at Anfield, and in his press conference today, he wheeled out his trademark excuse for signing under-performing players.

Speaking to the press ahead of Liverpool's Premier League game with Newcastle, Rodgers insisted:

"We brought young Markovic in for the longer term. We have confidence he will become a big player for us".

Hmmm. Rodgers said the same thing about Tiago Ilori and Luis Alberto, and look where they are now. The major difference is, however, that neither of those players cost £20m.

Rodgers has also contradicted himself somewhat. When discussing his transfer strategy over the summer, he told reporters:

“Last summer...it was difficult for us to bring in starters. This year...those players coming in need to be capable starters. They have to be to the level that we require to perform”

If Rodgers spends £20m on a player, then it's totally fair to expect that player to make some kind of contribution to the team. Based on Rodgers' comments, it's also fair to assume that he signed Markovic because he believed he'd be a 'capable starter' for LFC.

Predictiably, Rodgers has now changed his tune, and is basically arguing that Markovic is *not* a capable starter, and little should be expected of him until some undetermined point in the future. Well, in my view, this is an unacceptable excuse.

Rodgers knew the importance of building on last season, and instead of spending that £20m on a player 'capable' of making a much-needed impact straight away, he wasted it on Markovic, a player John Aldridge recently described (correctly) as a 'passenger' at LFC.

How many times is Rodgers going to make these mistakes in the transfer market? Calling Markovic a 'waste' of money may not sit will with some LFC fans, but that is the harsh truth right now. At this moment, Liverpool have received zero benefit for that £20m outlay, and that makes it a waste of money. It all boils down to a concept I call 'loss of utility':

* If Rodgers had spent that £20m on the right player, he would be contributing to the cause right now in the form of vital goals/assists.

* Instead, Rodgers bought the wrong player. Consequently, Liverpool have lost the benefit of having the right player in the team.

* The loss of utility becomes more acute the longer Markovic fails to contribute.

* The same concept applies to players like Borini, Aspas, Alberto, Sakho, Moses, Assaidi, Ilori etc. None of these players have made any significant impact at Anfield. Just imagine the benefits to the club if Rodgers had signed the right players...

Every club makes transfer mistakes, and the loss of utility concept applies across the board. However, with Liverpool, the errors are the rule, not the exception, and that is a major ongoing concern. Additionally, wasting transfer funds like this just leads to further expense.

For example, if Markovic, Lallana et al keep failing to consistently contribute, then Liverpool will be forced to spend big bucks on another couple of attacking midfielders, and with Rodgers' record in the transfer market, the cycle of failure will probably continue.

Bottom line: Liverpool should not (IMO) be spending £20m on players 'for the longer term'. When there's so much at stake, that kind of money should only be spent on players capable of making an immediate impact on the team.

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179 comments:

  1. He is just hiding his transfer failure. No one knows for sure if Markovic will come good or not, it was a gamble and a very expensive one at that. 20mn could have been used for a starter like Griezmann. I don't understand the logic behind signing Markovic, he doesn't look good on youtube, his stats at Benfica are very average, he has a bit of pace but nothing else.
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    We overpaid for Lallana as well. I don't see Lovren or Sakho as a major upgrade on Agger. Lovren and Sakho cost us 38mn and we sold Agger for 3mn, terrible decision again. Lambert doesn't look like he is ever gonna score and 4mn (plus add ons) for a 32 year-old non-starter is a joke too. Defoe would have been a better purchase...he scored lot of goals for spurs as a super-sub and is a great finisher. I am in the minority but I think Balotelli and Borini will come good if given good run of games and if played in their preferred position. Lastly, I like Moreno and Manquillo for 6mn is a decent business. In conclusion, we could have done a lot better this season with the transfer kitty we had.

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  2. Pablo Von Mooneyo1:27 pm, October 31, 2014

    Agree 200%

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  3. At last, now the Ballotelli smokescreen is clearing the REAL REASON is being discussed which is the mismanagement of finances.

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  4. I really hate to get on their backs, I prefer to keep the faith and support what we have, But with additions like Balotelli and those mentioned above, I am finding it very difficult to find an alternative argument at the moment... I think Brendan was flattered last season based on the form of Suarez, Sturridge and young Sterling.. Take two away and we struggling beyond belief.... We always need to keep an eye on the now, the future is the future, we're not there yet... We want to win stuff in 5/10 years, but we want to win stuff NOW!...

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  5. Difficult to argue with your conclusions here- for £20m a player must be able to contribute straight away.
    One thing is for certain though NO more players who hjave had just ONE good season; too risky. I'd rather miss a potential bargain now and again and buy PROVEN talent..

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  6. It doesn't help when owners have no idea of Football and buy the club. FSG relied heavily on Comoli and Daglish at start and now they rely on BR and Ayre. I don't think FSG have a good knowledge about players and their value, of course, its not their job to know but it helps when they have passion for the game. Currently, they have to put blind faith on BR and Ayre and hope the money invested will bring good returns. I feel sorry for FSG really.
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    BR-FSG cycle is similar to that of KD-FSG. After the Hodgson tragedy, KD was hired and he achieved significant success in his first season compared to his predecessor. Certainly, fans and FSG alike were impressed and supported KD by sanctioning large amount of transfer money for the next season. Similarly, FSG were impressed by BR after last season heroics and rightly so. If FSG see their money blown away yet again, I doubt they will have invest again in future.

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  7. Are you coming round to the realisation that BR is not the guy we need to move forward

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  8. Remember Brendan's arrogant statement that we're different from Tottenham. In reference to the mass influx of players. Sorry Brendan the similarities are plain to see. Both teams failed to adequately replace their star player & both sacrificed quality for quantity. Message to BR more is less!

    This idea that Ballotelli is taking flack for Lovren's inept performance, Markovic's no show, Aspas, Ilori, Alberto, Assaidi etc etc is spectacularly stupid. That's what most ex LFC pundits are spectacularly stupid!

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  9. I'd also like to see Mario and Borini up front together - we have consistently been better with two up front and they seem like a decent combination and both have a lot to prove. Borini should be in for that cross against Swansea alone!

    As for Rodgers, I remain a big fan, but I wonder if the job has taken its toll on him recently. He has been doing too much talking lately, but difficult not too with all the media demands I suppose...

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  10. Funny how many (including Jaimie) were shouting and screaming why we did not buy Lovren before Southampton did. Irrespective of the price, he has not really lived up to expectation even being one of the best defenders in the league last season.

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  11. I am sure that Klop would take Markovic or Coutinho as a part of the deal for Reus.

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  12. Why would we want to get rid of Coutinho? He is easily one of our most creative players.

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  13. To get one the most creative players in the world.

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  14. Reus is going to Bayern Munich. We do not stand a chance.0

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  15. I am sure Klop and Dortmund will do everything to keep him away from them. That and money is our chance. Plus if we stabilize in the top 4 by Jan which is very likely in my opinion, we are attractive enough.

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  16. Enemyofeverydisbeliever2:43 pm, October 31, 2014

    Are you insane? Would never swap coutinho, hes one of the most underrated ever in my eyes. As for the serb, Im truly ashamed to see him on that shirt, massive disgrace.

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  17. Reus is guaranteed success at Bayern Munich and they have loads of cash to play around with. They will put us to shame.

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  18. Disgrace after a month playing, being 20 years old and coming back from injury to the best league in the world with so much expectations. Hm... And Reus is better than Couts, simple.

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  19. Enemyofeverydisbeliever2:46 pm, October 31, 2014

    So where he would fit in there? This dortmund-bayern business is so boring now, hope reus doesnt fell in.

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  20. Enemyofeverydisbeliever2:49 pm, October 31, 2014

    You would sell coutinho softly forgeting that we signed him for only 8.5m just because reus is better, but you defend markovic 20m. garbage!! Fair enough.

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  21. If we did not sign Markovic then Chelsea would have. They had first option to buy him. That suggest that he is a very talented player. The 1st team has struggled this season so to expect a youngster to perform brilliantly in a struggling team is going to result in a struggling youngster.


    IMO he needs a bit more time to settle down.

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  22. to be fair, lovren only hat one good season either

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  23. Munich are one of the most valuable teams in the world. Financially they are far ahead of LFC and at the moment far more successful than us.


    1+1=2

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  24. Sterling, BAlo and Reus and we don't have one upfront problem so yes I would sell Couts, Would Sell Serb but we would lose on him unlike Couts who would be proffit. And Lazar has a chance proving himself.

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  25. You don't pay £20mill for a nonentity!

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  26. minus their annimosity with Clop maybe equals this one not going there.

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  27. Enemyofeverydisbeliever2:56 pm, October 31, 2014

    Theres no need of writing that long comment mate, dont think anyone will read that, this aint a test exam!

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  28. So we weren't able to spend 19mil on bony hut we can spend 20mil on an unproven kid

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  29. Agree. What's done is done, so stick with him and hope for the best?

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  30. Enemyofeverydisbeliever2:58 pm, October 31, 2014

    But dont stick with coutinho...

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  31. Unfortunately for us the player will decide where he goes. This was evident with the situation we found ourselves when we tried to get Alexis Sanchez.


    Klopp is not going to dictate to the player especially when there is big money involved.

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  32. I think this can serve as an eye opener to the board of LFC, if some one can do this favor :D

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  33. Not all of us run a football club though :D

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  34. I am a die hard Kopite @Enemyofeverydisbeliever.
    I can say most of the fans would agree with the facts I have presented. Apart from the long write up ,the post does make sense. If I can proudly spend countless 90 minutes to watch LFC in action, then spending a mere 15-20 minutes on a post shouldn't be much ;) :D

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  35. I wouldn't stick with anyone if we can get better who can help us be where we deserve.

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  36. Jaimie, since our discussion about Markovic the other day you've written 2 negative articles about him. As I said the other day, he's just a kid with a big price tag around his neck trying to find his way in a new team, league, country etc. He's only had a handful of games and ok he hasn't set the world alight by any means but to be calling him a waste of money already is ridiculous.
    I take you're point that a 20 million pound player is expected to make an instant impact but it doesn't always work like that although the "bought for the future" routine is becoming a bit of a tired excuse. Fair enough at this moment in time he's not proving value for money but that doesn't mean he won't in the future. To constantly expect instant results from players, it's totally unrealistic. As for whether we should've spent 20 mil on him or not is another matter but one which ultimately remains to be seen

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  37. Markovic needs to be given a chance to play centrally. He is a very good passer of the ball and links up well wit those around him. His end product needs to be worked on but he is only 20??? That can be ironed out with the correct coaching and if we can apply the same methods to what we did with Sterling then Markovic could become an asset. He has blistering pace which is what we need upfront. My advice, do not write him off yet :-)


    Markovic actually reminds me much of Patrick Berger. How unlucky was he with all his injuries. Great player!

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  38. Refreshing to hear the truth- no top player will ever sign for Rodgers- what does he have to offer them?

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  39. Coutinho is a player we need to keep. How much will we need to cough up to replace him?

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  40. When we were linked with him I obviously checked youtube as I hadn't seen much of him.... I was not impressed at all. Youtube is not gospel as it can sometimes make a bad player look decent i.e Voronin. However I always worry when they look bad on youtube as they are meant to be their best bits.

    I fully admit to not liking Henderson initially, and Lucas before him, but they both proved me wrong so let's hope Lazar can do the same

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  41. Even if he comes good at some point, its still a bad signing as we needed starters this season, especially for that amount of money.

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  42. Transfers maybe just ain't that easy as many would like to think plus a team like Chelsea have proven that they will beat us at any signing which we are after.


    Sanchez is another player who would have fitted in seamlessly at LFC but went to Arsenal when he had the opportunity to be a regular starter for us.


    Many wanted Bony to sign but fact of the matter is that we would have paid almost double for him compared to Balotelli otherwise Bony would most probably been in a red shirt.


    i do believe Balotelli will turn out to be a very good signing. Rodgers just should stay away from playing him as a lone striker and give Borini a chance to prove himself. We have a very talented attacking options. Our defence is absolutely sh!te though :-o

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  43. Chelsea had first option to buy but the did not, hence the title 'first option'. I'm not suggesting he's a bad player but Jamie is right in that 'one for the future' was not necessarily what we needed when players like Sanchez and Pedro were not happy at their clubs.

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  44. His value plus 15 mil for Reus.

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  45. Sanchez did not want to come to us. Pedro another player built like Aspas who was overwhelmed in the EPL. No thank you.

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  46. It is not that easy. How many player plus cash deals happen nowadays?


    Plus Coutinho is a really good player and not sure why anyone would want to get rid of him.

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  47. For me, the jury is still out on Markovic. He hasn't been given much of a run, plus, I recall when Henderson was signed for a similar fee and took awhile to develop. That being said, right now, he looks like the wrong player at the wrong time and I can only imagine what the folks at FSG are thinking considering his fee. Then again, they wanted the young, relatively inexperienced manager who came with "potential," one might almost say "one for the future." I was willing to give BR a few years to grow into the position, but I'm starting to wonder if it's merely been his his ego developing, rather than his tactical and management skills.

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  48. Reus is not coming to LFC. What is the bet?

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  49. For goodness sake, we are 9 games into the season, missing a key player, surrounded by plenty of poorly performing teams in the table and certainly not out of touch of the positions we need to be making. How can you make such an assertion? Dalglish had a whole season where he could not right the ship - and with Suarez in the team. Why don't you 'cycle' your thought processes a bit more before spouting such nonsense?
    I for one am seriously tired of peoples' pathetic casting of judgements after 9 games. Neither of us knows where we will be at the end of the season but I think the manager and the team deserve a little more patience and faith; not you casting aspersions this early.
    You say FSG were likely to have been impressed by last season's 'heroics and rightly so' and yet you seem to be suggesting that we are in this doomed 'BR-FSG' cycle, so what is your point here? You are offering no solution and yet sniping away until your heart's content. Either you should have been jumping up and down in the summer and calling for Rodgers head then - I doubt you were - or you shut up now and let Rodgers have his day and make your opinions known at the end of the season.
    Don't just sit on the side lines with hindsight and proclaim the season already a failure - when that is clearly premature - I suggest you get a grip of yourself and look at the glass which is certainly still half full.

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  50. Please stop moaning about 'negative' articles. It is realism, something that you clearly can't handle. Nothing I've written is personal, or out of order, and just because Markovic is 20, doesn't mean he shouldn't be discussed,

    In any event, the articles are not about Markovic per se; they're about Rodgers' performance in the transfer market.

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  51. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:00 pm, October 31, 2014

    I am ashamed by some lfc fan
    we have to give markovic time not all players hit the ground running
    look at dzeko,henderson etc




    when he comes good you will all apologies

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  52. I am a serious gambler, so let us not go there...

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  53. One thing that has made me go ape this season is Rodgers changing the way we played compared to last season. There is now doubt that we have been mediocre for most of the season but with so many new signings or squad has been unsettled. Still no excuse for the rubbish that has been served up but we seem to be getting better. Our defence is still a massive issue.


    Rodgers will know his fate when the season is up but to change managers now would be a disaster. FSG will give BR till the end of the season and also probably review the transfer committee if things go horribly wrong.


    We just need to hope things improve from now on.

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  54. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:04 pm, October 31, 2014

    Talking about reus is stupid
    liverpool cant sign reus because he is too good and too big for lfc,
    i bet he would rather die then play for us




    we can only go and sign those that are willing to come here , plus you forget to mention reus has a release clause and no third party ownership which put the price of reus up


    teh argument is so bad its like when we signed carroll everyone was saying we should have signed augero yeah but augero does not want to join


    i love this club liverpool is my life but the truth is we are not a big club we are normal just liek hull,villa,sunderland , bayern,real,utd,chelsea and barca are a whole new level and we can never compete with them

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  55. Not that 200% agreement is possible/necessary; I'm sure 100% is good enough for you. Can I disagree 200%? No, I didn't think so. I will just agree 0%.

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  56. Well he ain't coming. Case closed.

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  57. Enemyofeverydisbeliever4:05 pm, October 31, 2014

    I wont apologize, 100%.

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  58. Window is not opened yet so case is not closed.

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  59. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:08 pm, October 31, 2014

    well not now but you will
    i remember calling the likes of henry,dzeko,de gea, henderson,,berbatov ,mascherano,tevez ,
    all flops but they are now some of the greatest players to ever grace the pl well not hendo and de gea yet but they will be

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  60. There is nothing wrong with being hopeful but reality will prevail.

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  61. Please stop moaning about 'negative' articles. It's realism, which you clearly can't handle.

    Sent from Samsung Mobile

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  62. I am only critical about the signings. When did I suggest BR should be sacked or we are going to have a disastrous season?? I said 'if' these transfer signings didn't work out....FSG will find it difficult to invest again. I think your comment was over the top. I am only furious about BR's transfers, nothing else.

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  63. And who says that my hope won't become reality...

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  64. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:12 pm, October 31, 2014

    reus i said it is too big for lfc
    we have never signed a big player since i ahve been alive
    the closest is torres and suarez but they were not as big as reus
    so if we cant sign players when we were good like under rafa what makes you think we can now when our best player is a teenager who cant play 3 games in a trot without complaining of being "tired"

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  65. But that is not to say that spending £20m on a player for the 'now' would have performed any better especially in a team which does not know what to do with the ball at the moment.

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  66. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:15 pm, October 31, 2014

    I am a big fan of you
    but i dont agree that we should spend without any eye to the future


    look at rafa and roy reign we were signing players like cole ,merieles and maxi good players at the top of the game
    but they could not hack it because they were too old


    in 10/11 we had only babel,kelly and lucas under age of 25

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  67. That is a cop-out. Look at Costa, Febregas, Sanchez, Di Maria etc - there are many players bought for big money in the Prem who've come in and made an immediate impact. For the most part, buying a more experienced player for £20m+ raises the odds of success.

    In my view, £20m+ should never be spent on teenagers, or 20 year olds, period.

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  68. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:22 pm, October 31, 2014

    what makes you think you represent " most people" ?


    where oh where are your great facts?
    1)"suarez was in great form"


    unless you had your head in the sand you would ahve seen what suarez said about rodgers
    he said rodgers system allowed him to excel rodgers is teh best tactical manager he worked with
    and his advice made suarze a better player, why were we shiiitye under kenny with suarez ?


    2)all his buys have not been abject failures apart from coutinho and sturridge , mignolet and sakho contribution has not been teh best but they are still contributing
    who knows what iloris could be ,kolo was a good signing


    3)it dont matter what chelsea or man utd were doing tats their fault
    chelsea had a 50m striker up front , same as lfc whole front line ,

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  69. True supporter. I can see the liver bird tatooed across your red , red heart. Seriously? Hull, Villa and Sunderland? Because i am sure every player looking at a potential transfer really classes us alongside them? Yeah, ok.

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  70. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:25 pm, October 31, 2014

    You ignore fact Liverpool cant buy these players


    example :


    sanchez- did not even consider us


    benzema- said lfc are too small for him


    willian - choose spurs over us


    costa- rejected us


    mkhitaryan- said we are past it


    We have not won a league for 25 years
    that is older then most footballers
    we are just another west brom to players

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  71. I think a major problem has been the amount of players we have signed this season. I would have called a miss on Lovren as it seems like he was not really the player we needed. We might as well have kept Agger but Lovren is here now what can we do. I would much prefer to see Sakho in the team though. We have failed to sign a centre back which can take the game by the scruff of the neck. By the looks of things we could have got much better than Lovren especially at £20m.


    Our defence sticks out like a sour thumb.

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  72. The more you write the more I'm convinced that you really have no clue about football.

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  73. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:26 pm, October 31, 2014

    the big teams win big titles


    we have not won it for 24 years


    balckburn and leeds have won leagues more recently then us




    you can keep thinking we are some great power and harbor all the unrealistic expectations that come with it


    or you can accept the situation have an open mind about it

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  74. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:29 pm, October 31, 2014

    Apparently Portuguese league don't allow their clips


    so most were highlights from cup games and europa league games

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  75. DI Maria = 60+70M pounds and ludicrous wages.


    Costa, Fabregas - Chelsea or liverpool? What is the answer?


    Sanchez chose London. End game.


    What does that leave us with?

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  76. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:32 pm, October 31, 2014

    I would rather have messi and ronaldo join us we can get rid of coutinho and ballo i also want bale we can swap him for toure


    ..................................messi
    sterling.......................bale...................ronaldo


    now lets get back to reality reus will never join lfc messi will not join, ronaldo will not join
    never ever ever unless their families lives were on the lien or something

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  77. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:34 pm, October 31, 2014

    Exactly


    we are an irrelevant player when going after big players


    spurs beat us to players glyfi sigguardson rejected us
    now some fans think costa,sancehz and di maria will join




    let this sink in GYLF SIGURDSON rejected us a nobody like gylfi

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  78. I am afraid it was was so laughably weak i had to amuse myself by getting to the end :) I am surprised the sad sack hasn't topped himself yet. Wait! I think we are just mocking the future Liverpool manager, the guy clearly has all the answers.

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  79. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:39 pm, October 31, 2014

    trust me even mourinho wont be able to sign top players for us


    top players have wealth are stars , they ahve glamorous lives they like big shops night life their wives are glamorous most often models


    a city like liverpool wont satisfy them

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  80. To suggest we are just another WBA is taking it a bit to far. We have all the prestige to sign most players but to attract the best players you have to be at the top of the pile at this point of time. If we had to win the League or even the CL this season the floodgates would open for any player to join us as it would show that we have shown loads of progress and only getting better.

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  81. I disagree with most of what he says but he's entitled to his opinion.As is Enemyofeveryone

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  82. I'm not stupid, I understand the point you're trying to make, I just don't agree.
    You're argument is that Rodgers has wasted 20 mil on Markovic, I'm arguing that it's too early in his career to judge him, therefore whether or not he proves to be value for money remains to be seen

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  83. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:42 pm, October 31, 2014

    trust me
    the city is very important like i said before


    why would you live in liverpool when you can live in london,paris,barcaloena,madrid , milan , munich etc ?

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  84. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:44 pm, October 31, 2014

    you talk a lot of sense
    i always say give a player a year before judging them


    jaimies assertion that if we sign top players they can contribute is wrong


    torres 50m
    shevchenko 30m
    veron 30m


    tehyw ere top players but did not contribute

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  85. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:46 pm, October 31, 2014

    btw for your info villa are a very successful club
    but in the past like liverpool
    a more fitting list would be liverpool , nottingham forest,villa ,leeds,arsenal

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  86. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:47 pm, October 31, 2014

    i wish man utd thought like you when they bought ronaldo and rooney

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  87. You are mocking someone's post?!? Damn...

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  88. But if LFC were winning trophies season after season then it would be a completely different story would it not?


    LFC still remain one of the biggest clubs in the world when it comes down to history but money and fame has changed the game dramatically. If we were lining up the trophies the players would follow irrespective of the city you live in.


    We are between a rock and a hard place at the moment. We have a much better squad compared to the one Rodgers took over though IMO.


    I will give him till the end of the season.

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  89. No arguments there- it pains me to hear BR say we overachieved last season and this would be the season we 'pushed on' - evidently not

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  90. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:49 pm, October 31, 2014

    i will give him one more
    as west ham proved with big sam and newcastle with pardew you should ahve faith with manger who got you sucsess at one point

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  91. True, he is entitled to his opinion but I for one am going to vociferously counter any such opinion because if nobody does then this kind of opinion will set down poisonous roots . I rather liked what we did last season and I am not going to sit about listening to whiners like him pull everybody down when we have clearly made - at worst - an indifferent start to the season.

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  92. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:51 pm, October 31, 2014

    yes but what was he meant to say


    " we have no ambition, next season we will decline because we lost suarez and might not make cl"


    would the likes of markovic,lallana,moreno,can,lovren join us if he said that ?


    we all knew this would happen it was teh most likley senario so i dont see why you are suprised or hurt

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  93. How about the Champions League, the treble, the FA Cup, The League Cup.. We have won trophies in that time period. Liverpool is in a Rennaissance right now. After years of dormancy, it is rising back up and in the future, it can compete.

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  94. Fine. counter his argument by all means but personal comments just lessen your points.

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  95. Is this the same code that wished we lost a game so we can sack Brendan?

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  96. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:55 pm, October 31, 2014

    History is only important to players if they were bought up in that time


    we last won the league 24 years ago
    most players were not even born tehn


    the only history that matters to us is who was winning trophies when i was between 8 to 17

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  97. Nevergonnacrackthecode4:56 pm, October 31, 2014

    i will happily sack rodgers if klopp or simeoen became available
    but no one good now tehre

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  98. He's showing his inexperience by constantly over- elaborating on his answers and leaving himself open to ridicule

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  99. You said you wish we lose the game so we can sack Brendan. That is so much different from attacking someone who is pesimistic abouz our season.

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  100. Nevergonnacrackthecode5:02 pm, October 31, 2014

    show me the proof

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  101. Nevergonnacrackthecode5:03 pm, October 31, 2014

    i only returned 5 days ago
    after my ban was uplifted

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  102. it was before you were banned...

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  103. Nevergonnacrackthecode5:08 pm, October 31, 2014

    i was banned after i said something about ricky lambert when he started vs west brom


    i was really angry how in 4 months we went from suarez to lambert


    so if i said something then it was understandable


    it still kills me inside when i see lambert and balotelli toiling so slow cumbersome
    when we used to have the best SAS the best move dynamic action packed atatck in world football


    two player that can beat a man skill them up deadly finishing link up play
    then we had lambert starting


    i ahve written off this season in the hope rodgers will rectify his mistakes bring in martinez and origi and we can go back to winning

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  104. OK, so saying Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Villa and Arsenal if that is what you believe. Now we have isolated it down to these then the only club (incidently not on your original list) that i think we would have trouble competing with for a potential signing is Arsenal. I dare you to challenge me over that point. My only real point here is stop embellishing the truth for dramatic effect. Anyone in their right mind knows we are a more attractive proposition than the lists you were reeling off.
    I actually also disagree that we would always lose out to the clubs including Chelsea and Man u. Why did Sturridge end up at Liverpool then? You will probably chip in at this point and say Real would always be more attractive than us and I would largely agree for players like Bale. However, there are plenty of players who would also view the chance to be a bigger fish with us as attractive. For me, Reus is one of these. We will all have an answerfairly soon I am sure.

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  105. You're obviously not an accountant then

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  106. Ashamed to see him in the shirt? Don't get carried away or anything

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  107. Nevergonnacrackthecode5:12 pm, October 31, 2014

    I just read a fantastic comment from TOM
    he talks about hindsight


    the truth is a lot of us wanted lovren,lallana,moreno and we were excited when balotelli joined


    now because its not so far worked we are attacking rodgers

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  108. A lot of teams are struggling at the minute. City have less reason than us but are three points ahead. Arsenal get our top target yet ate level of points. United's signings? We are struggling and most teams would if you take players of the quality of Suarez and Sturridge out. Take Cost out of Chelsea for months and see how they do. When we get Sturridge back the new players will have had time to settle (something I bet Rodgers was hoping wouldn't happen without Sturridge). That is the real time to judge the team. It is far too early.

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  109. Terry McDermotts perm5:18 pm, October 31, 2014

    KD. Had Suarez in his team but he wasn't the player then that he became.

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  110. We've played nine games and currently sit only two points off the champions league places. All these people shouting for BR's head need to get a grip.

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  111. Nevergonnacrackthecode5:22 pm, October 31, 2014

    What has reus done to convince you of this ?




    In fact i remember gotze saying his dream was always to play for utd


    so even if he wanted to be some big fish it would be for a club like utd or spurs


    sturridge was a reject of chelsea was he not they did not even want him in training during his final days

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  112. Never wanted him in first place so not saying anything new

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  113. I can see that you didn't point blank say those things, it just reads to me like you were saying we were destined for this tornado cycle of doom and i simply believe all of these opinions about our signings are far too premature. I am sure FSG are big enough and wise enough to let the dice be rolled properly first. Have some heart.

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  114. However it was Rodgers who took Suarez to the next level. If we'd persevered with KD then we'd have persevered with Carroll and Suarez arguably wouldn't have developed into the player he did.
    Love your username by the way

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  115. Do not have to be one to figure out simple maths :-)

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  116. I would without a shadow of a doubt rather have the squad we have now compared to the one Rodgers took over from Dalglish. We have far more options now. Rodgers just needs to go back to basics and this squad will flourish.

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  117. Good one. There is no such thing as a categorically right or wrong. Plus this whole debate boils to many unknowns. There are very few certainties when signing players. What seems like a perfect fit on paper can be anything but in the end. Conversely, what seems like a match made in heaven can turn sour pretty quickly if the chemistry is not right.
    What still amazes me is how people seem to think there is some degree of certainty to it. I think people just need to accept that pzart of the magic of making a new signing is seeing if they do click.
    I would always be an advocate of sticking by those that you have in the first place and making sure you make the best of what you have; but maybe I am old fashioned.

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  118. Just out of curiosity Jaimie what makes you change the headline?

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  119. I'm sorry man but your setting yourself up to be disappointed.

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  120. There are a few drama queens on the internet at the minute. Can't wait for a run of good games so it goes a bit quieter.

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  121. Test exams are the worst! Well almost as bad as Exam tests.

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  122. Sorry mate "most"? Nahh.

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  123. I haven't changed the headline.

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  124. You were banned for personally insulting Lambert, which is against the site's rules.

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  125. Do not go around telling people what they can and cannot post. People can write long comments if they like, and Solitary Reaper's comment is well argued and interesting. If you post something like this again, you will get a 7-day ban.

    And FYI - about 5000 visitors have read that long comment so far, so you're totally wrong.

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  126. As Stuart says below, please do not belittle or snipe against other posters. There's nothing 'laughable weak' about SR's post, and comments like yours go against everything this site is about. Any further comments like this will be deleted.

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  127. Vociferous counter-arguments are welcomed and encouraged, but only if they're presented in a civil manner. If you can't argue against someone without sniping, then please don't post at all.

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  128. From earlier? Well somebody did. It ended "Lame excuse?"before.

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  129. Jesus, what is with people? I'm getting sick of this wilful disregard for the site's comment policy. Do not call another poster's view 'garbage'.

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  130. Maybe I changed it 2 mins after posting. Initially, I was asking the question 'is this a lame excuse' from Rodgers? I guess I changed it to represent my view on the subject, which is: this *is* a lame excuse from Rodgers.

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  131. Mate in fairness it really your opinion rather than "realism".

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  132. I have noticed similar things before was just wondering. Shows how often I am here I suppose. Jay be a sado.

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  133. Obviously it's my opinion. Do I need to put 'IMO' in every headline and/or after every 3rd word?

    It's realism as I see it; in my opinion. I don't suggest anything other than that.

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  134. I do change headlines quite a lot after posting, but I'm a Virgo; perfectionism/constantly analysing/changing stuff goes with the territory.

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  135. Haha. 'Lacking in merit' - perfect.

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  136. I know but the meaning of realism suggests that the thing your referring to is fact or true to life. You could have said opinion instead of realism and it would have been more accurate.

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  137. The stats say that the teams who have the highest wage bills tend to do the best. All those players mentioned will be on more than any of our players barring maybe Gerrard.

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  138. No, that's not the meaning of realism in this context. The very fact I'm stating it's 'realism' means that it's my opinion. If I watch a movie, and afterwards, I say' Wow, that was so realistic', I'm not referring to real life, I'm simply stating that *in my opinion*, the movie was realistic. The same applies here.

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  139. So your saying your opinions imitate reality?

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  140. It won't be the first time, nor the last. But that is how I wanna live my life, once my unrealistic hopes became true, I'll be happier than I would be not believing..

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  141. This is totally pointless and irrelevant, and I don't have time for this pointless semantic chicanery.

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  142. Hear hear :) Let's start with Newcastle

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  143. I don't care what you judge about my thoughts. If you read my comments from the past, I have been extremely critical about transfers and transfers only. I am 100% sure its not a premature judgement. Its just that few players don't even look like they have the quality to step up. I maintain that we can qualify for top 4 if United fail to address their defense in January and if we finish top 4 it will be remarkable. Having said that, we should not forget the transfer failures because we are not run by oligarch who can afford such transfer wastes every year.

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    Your comment "Either you should have been jumping up and down in the summer and calling for Rodgers head then - I doubt you were - or you shut up now and let Rodgers have his day and make your opinions known at the end of the season."

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    This really pi$$es me off. I wasn't jumping in the summer but I was expecting some smart business. On the contrary, I think you were jumping after reading my comment and came up with such stupid judgments. Why should I wait until the end of the season and shut up right now? Just because you don't like what I am saying? Its my opinion and you can agree or disagree. If you want people to blindly praise BR or shut up then you need to avoid reading the comment section.

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  144. Not sure who needs to get a grip now.

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  145. You know the lamest excuse in this world? Comparing your failures with others and concluding that others are doing worse. I mean who the f cares what other clubs are doing?

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  146. Toure for Bale, had me in stitches.

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  147. People who blindly support BR needs to understand that his transfers record is abysmal.They can support BR (I support him too) but to defend his signings with stupid theories is ludicrous. He has wasted money this summer and everyone will realize it at the end of the season.

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  148. Mate, I'm not sure, but I was reading this blog during the summer and I recall you claiming Lovren would turn out to be our most important signing.

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  149. Of the 4 you mention only Costa has made immediate impact.

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  150. Patrick Berger was a great player...i remember watching a show where he pulled out an old box full of Liverpool memorabilia from when he was growing up...class act ...

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  151. The league table cares and so I do.

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  152. I voted you up for the use of chicanery.

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  153. God bless you brother

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  154. I never understood the purchase in the first how the hell can you expect someone who has done bugger all in Portugal come in and star in the EPL the next season.
    Rodgers and his dopey committee have blown it again time for him to call a spade a spade really very little imagination or intelligence in their recruiting.

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  155. When he is sold for bugger all you can apologize.

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  156. Yes but that was based on his season with Southampton. He was one of the best defenders last season hands down. We needed a player who was going to come in and command our back four and Lovren did actually look the part but unfortunately it has not turned out that way.

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  157. Fully agree JK. The guy was a starter for Benfica, the Europa League finalists. You can't pretend they're that far behind us that their starters should not be able to be starters at Anfield too. The players you mentioned cost a combined 51 million. Add Markovic maken 71 million quid. Wasted. Imagine the two players we could have had for that.

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  158. "We brought young Markovic in for the longer term," Rodgers said

    Well well, Dejavu like a MF!! because on 13 July 2012 BR said this:

    "Fabio fits the model of what we're trying to do in building not only for now, but also for the future.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29859691


    I wonder If BR will use the light switch in his bathroom or whther he'll just continue to keep pissing in the dark dousing his toilet rug.

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  159. Aspas?...don't do that to Pedro! I agree with Sanchez though.

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  160. Exactly - that's the point. The money wasted could've brought in a couple of truly top class players, and in the meantime, LFC loses out on the benefit of that.

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  161. Not to mention Lovren signed for Southampton the previous summer for the same fee we paid for Ilori. So had we bought him in stead we would now be 20 million better off. Actually, had we bought him and ILori last summer we would be 30 million better off now. 10 million saved compared to Sakho and 20 million this summer. Rodgers has been consistently poor in the transfer market since day one. Last season and the luck he had having Suarez at the club papered over a lot of cracks but he's found out now. He's just not capable. He made this big song and dance about him calling the shots in regards to transfers, when he first came to the club, so he's the one who brought in the shid players and he is the one opting to buy a lot of average dross rather than a few class players. Only one way forward. Without him.

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  162. @Jay Jay..It's a plain perspective. Again most of my write up is based on facts. And believe me most of the time facts are like a bitter pill to swallow. I am also a die hard Liverpool fan like you and I have every reason and freedom to present my opinion.Unlike last season our game has dipped to a new low and it is clearly evident that we lack players who can make a significant impact and win games for us. I'll reiterate the fact that apart from few defensive signings , Rodgers made very average signings in other areas and considering the quality of players that other clubs ( with whom we are competing ) possess, LFC will have a very difficult journey ahead.

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  163. I second your opinion Chirag :)

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  164. I find many people on the Internet should have a dictionary at hand. Not facts my friend they are opinions.
    We have been dreadful and opinion we both share but the players bought are more than capable but show little signs of cohesion or confidence. It is going wrong all over the place but it is more than the loss of one players as was the good form of last season. Opinions like religions can't all be right and like religions there may be grains of truth in all of them. Even those that are contradictions.

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  165. They are indeed facts for me ,for you and for the world to see.


    - Suarez was the best striker in all Europe last season.(Only reason why Barcelona paid that amount for him even after the biting incident. )
    - Go and check the combined value of all the LFC flops I have mentioned.
    - Chelsea was lacking in key area. Manutd was miserable.
    I they are not the facts then try to disprove them. I give you a fair chance !!

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