17 Oct 2014

Transfer Shock: BR in surprise talks to bring in 'monster' €12m striker. LFC to pay big fee to ensure loan deal cancelled

Last week, Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers claimed than 'monster' €12m summer signing Divock Origi 'will be world class' at some stage in the future, and despite spending almost £120m on new players over the summer, it seems that Rodgers has decided that the Reds can't do without the inexperienced 19-year old this season.

According to reports this week:

* Liverpool are planning to recall Origi from his loan spell at Lille.

* Negotiations are set to begin this week.

* Rodgers wants Origi available from January 1st, and is willing to pay a big fee to make it happen.

In my view, if Rodgers recalls Origi early, it will just underline his abject failure (yet again) in the transfer market. LFC spent almost £60m on attacking players over the summer, yet Rodgers feels the need to bring in a 19-year old to basically save Liverpool's season (!)

The question FSG should be asking is this: After spending all that money, why can't Liverpool survive without Origi?

Liverpool should not have to rely on a 19-year old to weigh in with season-saving goals, but with Balotelli, Lambert, and another transfer flop, Fabio Borini, misfiring, it seems that Rodgers' solution is to put all his hopes on a comparatively untested teenager with zero experience of the Premier League.

Ultimately, the reality is this: despite spending over £200m in two season, Liverpool are heavily reliant on 19-year old Raheem Sterling (which puts major pressure on his shoulders), and if LFC succeed in recalling him, Origi will have the same level of pressure/expectation thrust upon him.

What happens if Origi returns, and then fails to chip-in with the required number of goals and/or ends up spending all his time on the bench because Sturridge and Balotelli form a a great goal-scoring partnership? Such a situation will hardly be good for his confidence. Either way, the young striker will lose out on much-needed development time.

For me, it's an utter shambles. After such a massive investment in transfers, it's perfectly fair to expect Rodgers' squad to be strong enough to handle the absence of one key player (i.e. Sturridge), and several quad players (Allen, Sakho, Can etc)

It isn't, which is the ultimate indictment of the manager's effectiveness in the transfer market.

I apologise if this seems harsh on Rodgers; I'm still 100% behind the manager, but the ongoing inability to sign the right players (and the consequent waste of LFC's transfer funds) is a major concern.

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69 comments:

  1. When "According to Reports" is stated it brings the reliability of the source in question IMO!! Why will we pay a fee to bring our own player to our club?? Also "According to Reports" He is not coming!


    PS LFC will need to spend more to be competitive with the other big boys unless we get lucky and get a couple of DS and LS in a cheap.

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  2. I don't think your message is harsh, it's more the language used that may lead people to think you're being harsh, if that makes any sense? They are all fair points, with the outlay we've had, we shouldnt be relying on Raheem, despite his obvious quality, that kind of burden can be detrimental to a young players development. If he actually spends money getting Origi back, I'll be very disappointed, way too much is being made of this kid too early. I think he has potential and all that, but it's bordering on ridiculous! I look forward to seeing him back next season though :) Peace, YNWA

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  3. You got it wrong BR. You sold Suarez and bought Lambert and Balotelli!!! Now you want to call Origi back from loan. Give the kid more time. If comes back in January, a lot pressure will on his shoulders. You had the money, Instead of buying Lambert and Balotelli, you could have used the money to a buy a world class striker. Intead of buyind 7 average players, you could have bought 4 world class players.

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  4. I totally agree that B.R has wasted most of the transfer funds,he's done ok in Moreno,Lallana,and question marks still on allan, & Emre.But the rest are a big disappointment.He had ample time to not get the transfers wrong,but he has got them wrong and again LFC are suffering for it.With all his talk last season about the players his being eyeing out to walk straight into the LFC team this season it's yet to be seen.B.R you need to prove your critics wrong or you will walk alone.

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  5. "Shambles" seems a bit over the top. If we do need to add a striker then it's a failure with the signing, most likely, of just Lambert. Origi is backup material at best and if Liverpool need to cover for the expected continued failure of Balotelli then that is not the answer. So Origi would come early because we've discovered that Lambert isn't good enough to cover for injuries to Balotelli and Sturridge. Otherwise I'm sure Rodgers is relying on Sturridge to regain full fitness and Balotelli to eventually come good. The team otherwise doesn't have any desperate gaps that need filling and I'm still of the opinion that the transfer window was a success. It would be disappointing if it turns out that Lambert can't do the job and for sure, that rests with Rodgers, but he's one player and for me that doesn't constitute a shambles.


    If Balotelli is the concern then I'd suggest we sell him Benitez style and splash the cash on someone else like Cavani. Origi wouldn't even come close to filling that kind of gap and I can't imagine that Rodgers expects him to. The club still has money to spend so if we need a top class starting striker then we should go out and buy one.

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  6. What bothers me is you blaming Rodgers for transfer failures. This is clearly not true. Rodgers just works under FSG policies. FSG's way is to buy young and develop. For some time it is as is going to be in the near future. Therefore Rodgers is forced to buy young and unproven players with just a potencial. It's not his fault. There is scout team behind him which somehow finds and suggests new signings.

    About this transfer, I wonder if there is any truth in it. Who knows? On the other hand, Origi is in a good form this season and compared to our strikers clearly much more effective. And age doesn't matter. If the player is 15 and bangs goals, why not bring him?

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  7. Is it true that there is clash between Rodgers and the transfer committee? I heard that Sakho was a committee signing which Rodgers did not want but preferred to get Ashley William. Lovren is a Rodgers signing.

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  8. JK spot on! Setting Origi as LFC's saviour is embarrassing considering having bought Ballotelli & Lambert. What's more Ballotelli has questioned BR's tactics stating that he's never been a lone out & out striker. You're absolutely right to question this move. Lille must be laughing there heads off! Why won't he play two strikers? Why did we keep "mascot" Borini?
    What sort of message does this send out to the other strikers, of course Origi to his credit has tried to play this down by naming Ballotelli, Sturridge & Sterling et al as great strikers. What this boils down to is no plan B after Saurez, knock on effect is to pile the pressure on Sterling!

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  9. WONT HAPPEN but this will - England will be laughing stock in Euro Finals and WOY sacked - Hope Raheem choose to play for Jamaica instead and gets treated with respect - English players get paid 50 times more than most countries and still manage to fail every time -COME ON THE CELTS

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  10. Ready to pay a 'big' fee? Seriously. That's just stupid.
    Anyone else bored of this season already? I don't know what's going on lately but I just don't really care about football much this season.

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  11. Pablo Von Mooneyo8:46 am, October 17, 2014

    Borini shud have been pushed/shoved/kicked out the door, he's useless and BR has no intention of ever playing him. Remy should have been bought, at 8.5M that was an absolute no brainer. That would hav given us a nice mix of 4 top class strikers, two pacey players who like to get in behind and two technically good target men.
    The way he's talking up Origi atm is just putting unessary pressure in the lad, if there's one thing that's starting to grind on me atm with BR it's his constant over praising of obviously turd players.
    Bottom line, he's has 200M, TWO HUNDRED MILLION!!! To spend on players in two seasons, there are NO excuses. the squad is still lacking a top glass keeper, DMF and is overly reliant on an injury prone striker.
    I think we'll see a different Mario with Studge back and results will pick up, but how long until Studge picks up another knock, he's like porcelain, cud be two months, could be two games.

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  12. One thing we are missing out in this season is the departure of Sturridge, everyone seems to have just glossed over on this point, take a 25 goal a season striker out of any team in football and it will hurt them. The question over playing two strikers is made irrelevant in that is how Rodgers wants to play. The one and only time Balotelli, Sturridge and Sterling all played together was against Tottenham and we destroyed them.


    I also think it is a bit harsh to write off Lovren, Markovic and Manquillo as failures when we are not even half way through the season considering Markovic and Manquillo are 20 years old and have just made the biggest move of their lives.


    On Origi I hope his return dosen't happen and that he does not have to get called back from Lille but if it does I think it will only co - incide with Borini leaving the club.

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  13. yeah come on the Celts especially the english ones

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  14. Or, the more likely situation, this is nothing but paper talk bollocks?

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  15. What about Coutinho & Sturridge!? Markovic, Can, Moreno, Mankini, Lovren & Sakho will all turn out to be great signings for LFC. No manager has a 100% success rate in the transfer market

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  16. Completely off topic but does anyone here know if it IS Stevie G in
    * Lucozade Sport * TV Ad. or just a look alike ?

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  17. "Liverpool are heavily reliant on 19-year old Raheem Sterling" True, yet you slag him off for wanting to be on similar wages as our other attacking players!!

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  18. Basically, we should have got Remy instead of Balotelli.


    Lambert may be misfiring, but who in their right mind would turn down the chance to sign a striker who scored in double figures last season and had the 3rd most amount of assists in the EPL for £4m?


    The new signings are taking a while to settle, but would you class any of them as poor?


    Where is the proof that BR is planning to bring Origi back anyway? Utter BS!!

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  19. just had a look at it on youtube, yes it is stevie (oxlane-chamberlain is in there as well)

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  20. Some of the money spent was on Origi.

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  21. Raheem has played first team for England, I think that means he cannot play for another nation.

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  22. Remy would have been a bigger gamble than Balo (IMO). We have great medical staff and they didn't think he was worth the risk, I trust their judgement. Balo scored 26 goals in 37 for AC, 20 in 33 for Citeh, and he was available far cheaper than he should be. He's massively curbed his behaviour so far and anyone saying that he's lazy or doesn't work hard hasn't watched a single minute of his play this season. Not saying that he's a Henderson, but he works much harder than alot of the PL strikers he is competing with. Never was a Balo fan, but his play this season has really turned me into one. The only thing that is missing, and will inevitably arrive soon (please) is goals, and we know the guy is more than capable.
    And I totally agree, so far there isnt any real proof that he is looking to bring Origi back, I wouldn't say BS, but maybe just premature... Peace, YNWA

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  23. 100% agree with your bit about Lovren, Markovic and Manquillo. Lovren doesnt really fill me with too much confidence, but Manquillo looks like a fantastic prospect and IMO hasnt really done anything to warrant the slating he gets, I think he's just an easy target because he hasnt run the length of the pitch and scored like Moreno, who exposes the centrebacks far more often. Markovic I've got huge hopes for, I just hope he gets some decent playing time and is allowed to develop and that we don't do a Suso on him...

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  24. I can't be the only one who acknowledges just how much Luis Suarez carried Liverpool. B.R may be a great manager but he needs the players to pull his tactics to play.

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  25. Totally agree. I hope this is wrong. Origi is not some superstar who will come and solve our striking issues. Too much weight being put on a 19 year old who is even more untested than Sterling. Let him develop in Lille. Smacks of total desperation.

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  26. more untested than sterling??? I don't thing sterling had even played fir the QPR first team when we bought him. If you're talking about right now, Origi has played, and scored, at a world cup. Sterling hasn't scored yet. Origi has played in Europe with Lille, and played in a strong league in Ligue 1. He's becoming a mainstay in one of the most promising international teams on the planet in Belgium.
    What smacks of desperation is you quantifying his quality by his age to have a go at BR. I will admit, and have done, that BR's transfer record is not great, but this is something we can not blame him for.

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  27. How the hell am I having a go at BR?? I am one of his biggest advocates and have supported him all the way through. I still have faith in all his transfers( Yes, even Luis Alberto and Tiago Illori). He is the most exciting manager at Liverpool for some time now. You have no evidence to suggest I am a BR 'hater'. I am completely behind him. World Cup does not mean anything because the Pl is completely different. The reality is you do not know how well Origi will do and neither do I. He is not the solution now. Maybe in the future.

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  28. Shambles may be a bit harsh. This season Liverpool have been unfortunate with Allen Can Lallana Sturridge and Johnson have been injured this season and its only October

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  29. Yet I refer Sakho to Lovren

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  30. I think we should just get you on the transfer committee. It's exactly what we need, someone who can see into the future, and knows exactly how all players are gonna turn out.

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  31. Lille's director has advised that he will on leave in June!

    BR has indeed spent and wasted a lot of money. As an example, Reus release clause during the window is £28M. Yet we bought Markovic for £20!

    Assiadi
    Borini
    Sahin (who I think is a class player, but clearly a CM and not a AMC)
    Cissokho
    Ilori
    Aspas
    Alberto

    And the list seems to be growing...

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  32. If Studge stays fit we probably don`t need him. But it is probably, it is a big if, and the kid has class...

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  33. One of those comedians you were referring to

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  34. spot on really the transfer activity this summer has been nothing short of a shambles 120 million spent and not one new signing making a telling contribution. simply not good enough

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  35. Not fair to hold Reus against him. As much as we'd like to buy, we'd need them to sell (which they didn't want to do).


    The only reason why the talk has picked up in the last few weeks is because he rejected a contract extension.

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  36. Agree, Reus has become the new Rakitic. Remember that? "We could've had him for 16 million..." No we couldn't

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  37. Hurrah somebody who see's these 'reports' for what they are, rubbish.

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  38. The move if make believe though, you are getting your knickers in a twist over a made up story that LFC want him back in Jan. It is the tabloids thinking, Liverpool are struggling for goals, they have a young striker on loan, lets say they want him back. Then just fill in the rubbish inbetween.

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  39. On what reasoning?

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  40. The story is utter rubbish, Origi will be at Lille until next season.


    Moreno has been a good addition.


    Maquillo is showing good signs and will improve being a youngster.

    Lovren needs time to form a partnership at the back as all CB pairings take a bit of time to get right.


    Can has been injured so the lad hasn't even been given a chance.


    Lallana was injured and is only now getting fully fit and we are starting to see him make an impact.


    Markovic has also been injured and will need time to adapt to language and culture his is only a young lad so give it time.


    Lambert - Well for 4 million decent backup player.


    Balotelli - Always a gamble but a talented footballer who im sure when partnered with Sturridge will start finding the net.


    Lets not get ourselves carried away with the 'we wasted all this money' malarkey. You cant just go out and buy 1 or 2 players with a squad as thin as LFC's was and expect them to manage the league, CL and the cups.

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  41. 120m pounds spent and we want kids like Sterling and Origi to even make it to top 4.......i have lost faith in BR's transfers

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  42. We have 4 strikers and they have 2 goals between them in 10 matches in all competitions.....we cleary need a new striker or Balo has to up his game

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  43. Thanks - the cameo was so brief . First for him I think? Must ave been a nice little earner ;-)

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  44. if getting him in early means that it gets us a top 4 place then it will be great business

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  45. My sentiment remains the same regardless of whether the story is true or not. Fact is the summer transfer activities have been shockingly underwhelming making it clear that BR had no plan for life after Saurez.

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  46. Origi plays in France...so doing well is relative.

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  47. Stop slagging off the veracity of the story. I'm not interested in whether you think it's 'true' or not. If you disagree with the content, make your point, or don't post at all.

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  48. One of the deleted posts detailed how the transfers dealings are not as bad as made out but you chose to delete that one. Can't win.

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  49. Out of the summer buys I only have a problem with Markovic the rest I'm fairly happy no one would be moaning about lambert if Sturridge was there he was bought for a purpose Ithe problem with the defence is more tactical than individual and confidence is low. The jury is out on can not played enough Lapland is a good buy and balotelli may come good but of not at least he's entertaining. But Markovic looked bang average before he came I don't see the point in spending so much on some that is a prospect when you can buy actually proven quality

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  50. He had a plan, we were conected with some high class names according to some credible sources. But we couldn`t get them, Suarex leaving was one of the reasons. But we got some very good players that guarantee top4 and might not be title contenders just because of those injuries when we were most voulnerable, the begining of the season.

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  51. I hope your right my worry is he hasn't shown any signs of brilliance or creativity and looks a mile of the pace I want him to be a gem I just can't see it right now

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  52. When you look at his mistakes, they are so basic. You do not go from Belgrade to Benfica not knowing the basics. Language, EPL pace, pressure, injury.. He`ll come good. Good point re Lambert.

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  53. Exactly mate

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  54. Rues relaese clause according to anyone who is not a tabloid has not even come in to effect yet. Apparently 2015. I am unaware of the details but it is a Myth that he could have been bought in the summer for £28m. Why wouldn't he have been?

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  55. I have a feeling the Remy deal falling through had nothing to do with injury.


    It had to do with the fact that Balotelli was available for a cheaper price and is a better player and a better buy.


    It doesn't take much for a club to make a player pass or fail a physical if they really want to.

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  56. Are you sure it wasn't Kieran Gibbs? Would have Andre Marriner fooled.

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  57. Well said. The season is still young. There's still time.


    If we're still struggling come January 1, I'll be worried.

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  58. shambles is an understatement jk when it comes to money wasted

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  59. Yet we still finished 2nd and are currently only 1 point off top 4. I think some perspective is needed here. Let's not forget that £16M for Henderson seemed like wasted money at first, too.

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  60. But that would not have solved the problem of a very thin squad...we needed quality and depth

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  61. Drogba did well in France too no?
    You're arguement is non existant

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  62. If we signed Remy I would of been a little more comfortable with the summer spending exploits.

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  63. The 'mods' encourage, nay welcome disagreement and aim for a 'critical realism' in relation to LFC. The proviso being that this level headed utopian approach does not apply to their own posts written with their pens of infallibility.

    There has been no substantiative evidence that this is what the club intend to do so calling the 'veracity' of the story into question is reasonable to me, and wanders into the area of 'critical realism' too. Sound familiar?

    This shits me. Over half the content of this page has been supplied by your readers and I know which half I find more interesting and informative. Therefore you have them to thank for any revenue you make from impressions on those ads you have floating about flogging shit.

    Yet you think it's ok to censor arbitrarily if something rubs you up the wrong way

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  64. Interesting to see if you have enough faith in your convictions to post that...if you do, hats off.

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  65. Why can't the veracity of the article be questioned? Who are you?

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  66. The 'mods' encourage, nay welcome disagreement and aim for a 'critical realism' in relation to LFC. The proviso being that this level headed utopian approach does not apply to their own posts written with their pens of infallibility.

    There has been no substantiative evidence that this is what the club intend to do so calling the 'veracity' of the story into question is reasonable to me, and wanders into the area of 'critical realism' too. Sound familiar?

    This shits me. Over half the content of this page has been supplied by your readers and I know which half I find more interesting and informative. Therefore theYet you think it's ok to censor arbitrarily if something rubs you up the wrong way

    The 'mods' encourage, nay welcome disagreement and aim for a 'critical realism' in relation to LFC. The proviso being that this level headed utopian approach does not apply to their own posts written with their pens of infallibility.

    There has been no substantiative evidence that this is what the club intend to do so calling the 'veracity' of the story into question is reasonable to me, and wanders into the area of 'critical realism' too. Sound familiar?

    This shits me. Over half the content of this page has been supplied by your readers and I know which half I find more interesting and informative. Therefore you have them to thank for any revenue you make from impressions on those ads you have floating about flogging shit.

    Yet you think it's ok to censor arbitrarily if something rubs you up the wrong way.

    I'd treat your commentators with a little more respect if I were you.

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