Liverpool remain interested in signing Blackpool star Thomas Ince, but after playing against Fulham in the FA Cup today, the winger is now cup-tied for the rest of the competition, which could have an impact on any proposed transfer to Anfield.
Ince player the full 90 minutes against Fulham this afternoon, which means that if he ends up joining Liverpool, he would not be able to play in the FA Cup.
Earlier this week, The Mirror reported that Ince wanted to tie up a transfer to Liverpool before today;s FA Cup game, but clearly, that didn't happen. The report stated:
"Blackpool winger wants to leave before the weekend to make sure he's not ineligible for the FA Cup. Ince wants the move back to Anfield and is worried about playing in the FA Cup and becoming ineligible for the competition. Ince and father Paul are in discussions with the Seasiders about thrashing out the fee".
If Liverpool persist with trying to push through a deal, Ince's ineligibility for the FA Cup could conceivably have an impact on the transfer fee, which could help the Reds, who seem unwilling to go beyond £6m.
The question is, would Ince being cup-tied make any difference to Liverpool? Finishing as high in the league as possible is this season's priority, so perhaps it's not an issue for the club.
It seems to be an issue for Ince though, and perhaps he might now decide to stay at Blackpool until the end of the season.
Earlier today, Blackpool manager warned Liverpool to up their offer for Ince. He said:
"They [Liverpool] made an offer two weeks or so ago, we haven’t received anything else since. It’s not enough, it’ll need to be better to secure the service of Tom and until that changes he’ll stay here. Why would any manager want to sell and get rid of his best players? I’d love to keep Tom."
Jaimie Kanwar
Ince player the full 90 minutes against Fulham this afternoon, which means that if he ends up joining Liverpool, he would not be able to play in the FA Cup.
Earlier this week, The Mirror reported that Ince wanted to tie up a transfer to Liverpool before today;s FA Cup game, but clearly, that didn't happen. The report stated:
"Blackpool winger wants to leave before the weekend to make sure he's not ineligible for the FA Cup. Ince wants the move back to Anfield and is worried about playing in the FA Cup and becoming ineligible for the competition. Ince and father Paul are in discussions with the Seasiders about thrashing out the fee".
If Liverpool persist with trying to push through a deal, Ince's ineligibility for the FA Cup could conceivably have an impact on the transfer fee, which could help the Reds, who seem unwilling to go beyond £6m.
The question is, would Ince being cup-tied make any difference to Liverpool? Finishing as high in the league as possible is this season's priority, so perhaps it's not an issue for the club.
It seems to be an issue for Ince though, and perhaps he might now decide to stay at Blackpool until the end of the season.
Earlier today, Blackpool manager warned Liverpool to up their offer for Ince. He said:
"They [Liverpool] made an offer two weeks or so ago, we haven’t received anything else since. It’s not enough, it’ll need to be better to secure the service of Tom and until that changes he’ll stay here. Why would any manager want to sell and get rid of his best players? I’d love to keep Tom."
Jaimie Kanwar
LFC too focus about to sign this player.I think tom ince very serious want to join LFC.Btter go another target.Do not waste times to pursuit the player who never give attention to join you.
ReplyDeleteCan you say that in English please Zanz?
ReplyDeleteIf we didn't sign him, is he then available on a free transfer in the summer?
ReplyDeleteFSG don't seem in any mood to spend more money so with this season realistically wrote off as a transitional season a luxury not afforded to Dalglish, maybe we will wait until the summer to sign him. Although with yet another player leaving and yet more of the wage bill reduced (Cole) surely another signing is imminent. Do we have the smallest most inexperienced squad in the Premiership yet?
Just buy the player. Don't make it another Dempsey. The FA Cup this season is'nt as important as getting a good young player who will hopefully play for the club for years to come. He wants to come, Blackpool want to sell, and we need quality, fast, and intelligent players. He's not a gamble and is a Known entity. Arguing over 1.5 million is crazy given the wafer thin squad we have !
ReplyDeleteIn the words of the proverbial, Blackpool's owner can do one. We are no longer going to be his cash cow.
ReplyDeleteThis shows commitment to his duties at his current club. If he refused to play I and probably many other people would have lost respect for him. Dempsey refused to play for Fulham trying to push a move through and I was happy we did not bring in a player who does not fulfill his contract. I hope Ince will be a liverpool player soon.
ReplyDeleteBlackpool have a compensation clause in Ince's contract (like any player under 24) so we might have to pay over 6million compensation in the summer to supposedly sign him for free.
ReplyDeleteWhat?
ReplyDeleteI just hope he come`s to Liverpool..YNWA
ReplyDeleteWe need decent players that can make a difference not Ince. We need Villa, Sneider, Pato etc. These type of players we want because we are LIVERPOOL. Take a note please because we are fed up in the middle of the standings and our rivals always up there. we need to step up IMMEDIATELY.
ReplyDeleteon contrary i think ince is very intrested on coming back to liverpool. he left because we had a manager who didnt use our youth and stubbornly sticked to his flopsignings. I just think its stupid that we let him leave for 250k a year and half ago and we are signing (if we do) for 6 mill.
ReplyDeletethe signing could be great addition to squad, but otherwise a huge failure.
But we developed him in the first place, so do we still have to pay compensation for a young player we helped to develop or is that why we are entitled to the reported 35% sell on price?
ReplyDeleteWhat is it with Blackpool? no standards come to mind, trying it again!
ReplyDeletenot one of those signings will happen. get real.
ReplyDeletewage structure just doesnt allow it anymore. i hope we will get more competitive when FFP hits in.
we need big investments on squad, but we need to go for young talented players who arent on such wages as the world class players who have been around for 10-15 years already.
Blackpool are just being greedy. If they accepted Liverpool's offer of £6m then they would at least have gotten a decent price for Ince. With him being available for free in the summer anyway and apparently keen to join LFC poor Blackpool have pissed on their chips.
ReplyDeleteYes it will still apply but. If we buy him 25% (approx.) of the fee will come back to us as we negotiated this in the original transfer.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you fully, never seem to understand why when we are trying to complete transfers un 7mill.
ReplyDeleteOk we have not spent to wisely in the past but surely FSG know that they will have to spend to achieve even their goals and concidering that we are shopping in the bargain basement section in terms of price they need to cut the club some slack and sacrifice a bottle of the old vintage.
SHOW SOME PASSION!
Personally I don`t see from our end what difference it makes. If it had been the other cup, then yes, but the F.A Cup isn`t one that just youngsters get used in, so if his thoughts were that might be a area he would get games if not used in the first team, I can`t see the difference it makes.
ReplyDeleteFor us the fact he can`t play in the F.A Cup doesn`t really matter, who knows how long we will be in it, what counts right now is getting players who can help us perform now, in the league.
No, I think he has 18months left on his current deal, not 100% sure on that though.
ReplyDeleteBlackpool seem to behave like a modern day Robin Hood... the cheek fo it, and concidering that we sold Ince so cheap it's astounding and astonishing...
ReplyDeleteI disagree, Blackpool have every right to try and get as much for their player as they can, I would be amazed at any club that didn`t. The fact we let him go so cheap should have nothing to do with it. He is their player, and they can ask what they want, it is upto the player and us to see if we can do something to get him cheaper, or move on.
ReplyDeletewho cares??we cant waste money on potential this january,sturridge is enough lets spend the rest on proven quality players..there is no future with this model we are adopting,just ask wenger
ReplyDeleteMaybe they feel having him might get them into the play-off places, and possibly back into the prem, thus making him worth more to them than 6m. We also don`t even know if we have offered 6mil yet.
ReplyDeleteIt's Dempsey all over again, watch Tottenham steal him from us, like they did Dempsey, holtby, sigurdsson my how we have fallen spurs are seen.as bigger.
ReplyDeleteI always try to give 100% backing to anyone and anything associated with Liverpool Football Club. I drool in anticipation of one day seeing our beloved club regaining their status as a team realistically challenging for the title. However, after being fed sorry tales of summer transfer dealings being corrected during this window, my faith and confidence has taken a massive knock. Not only have we so far let two squad players leave, there is talk of Sahin being released. The numbers are not adding up! That's a possible 3 players out and just one in! Now the Ince deal is looking in serious doubt! Wasn't our squad already very thin and lacking experience? It seems we can't even compete for a Championship player now, let alone the Sneidjers, Villas, or indeed Alonsos. I don't mind admitting where we currently are as I am excited by the 'plan', but this talk of top four seems a little ridiculous considering players like Holtby would rather choose Spurs over us! That's really scary!..... I still believe Brendan is the right man but feel FSG are going to hinder any thoughts of quality, proven names, which brings me back to my earlier point, we can't even challenge for championship players. We are LIVERPOOL doesn't seem to hold as much sway these days apparently......
ReplyDeletesometimes this isn`t a bad thing, Dempsey aint done much, and a few German friends of mine reckon Holtby will struggle in the prem. I do agree with you though that while it is good to not go above our value, sometimes a extra 1mil is worth it.
ReplyDeleteThe only player that Spurs bought that I really wanted at LFC was Dembele. Vertonghen & Lloris would've been nice too but we were never in for either of them.
ReplyDeleteI'm surprised AVB didn't jump back in to poach Sturridge ahead of us, but I'm not fussed at all at missing out on any of the others
What rest is that then?.........And what 'quality' is coming for less than the Ince deal would be worth?
ReplyDeleteI agree, fed up of mediocre signings
ReplyDeleteyeah back to prem will net them like 20mill? am i wrong. with ince they do have better change up going up
ReplyDeleteagreed.
ReplyDeleteand he is still eligible for Uefa Europa League. would be cool to win the trophy. so underrated i think. European Trophy is a European Trophy.
+FSGarbage are penny-pinchers trying to do every thing on the cheap.
ReplyDeleteIf you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen, sell on to somebody with real money and real ambition. You pay peanuts , you get monkeys !
Lfc is a buisness ....sign Ince next year for less ....im not wholly convinced he would get in the team anyway ....you can say sturridge and suarez are certs......will he oust borini downing and sterling and suso.....throw into the mix at times enrique and yesil and gerrerd.....dont count your chickens theres every chance he will be nicknamed the judge ( always on the bench )
ReplyDeleteThis is bad business for LFC. We had him, let him go now after him for £6. Shocking but got to say he's better than Sterling.
ReplyDeleteInce is worth 2M, tops; that is the sticking point in this deal.
ReplyDeleteWe didn't let Ince go. He left. There is a big difference.
ReplyDeleteTI will be a force to reckon with in the near future. But if FSG misers do not sanction the move, we are screwed. He will come back to haunt us
ReplyDeleteAlso:
ReplyDeleteWhy?
Sturridge can't play in the Europa League for us so can't see why there would be a problem in signing Ince if he can't play in the FA Cup.
ReplyDeletewell you have to wake up none of the players that you mention will even be willing to come to a team that has finished mid table for the last 3 years and isn't in the champions league so we have to buy young unestablished talent and thats the only way that we are going to work our way back up the league not by saying we are liverpool and expecting everyone to roll over
ReplyDeletecan someone translate??
ReplyDeleteif blackpool reach the prem they will be able to offer ince more money and keeping him until the end of the season significantly increases there chances in doing so
ReplyDeletespoke 2 some1 interesting 2day and asked would liverpool make anymore signings and he said defo i asked him would tom ince b 1 of them and he said not necssarily he said i cant say 2 much so i asked him would david villa b 1 of them he smiled and said not saying anything but just wait and c but something will defo happen soon
ReplyDeletejust typical Liverpool, can see a Dempsey situation again.
ReplyDeleteplayer wants to come, but I bet its over a couple of million.
but in defence of Liverpool, if manure come knocking they will get him for less than us, why it happens I don't know
exactly we need him for the league and we will have enough cover for him in the fa cup e.g. sterling or downing can just take his place but with blackpool playing him it shows that they have no intention of getting rid as they wouldnt have played him to keep up his value you would have thought
ReplyDeletewell to be honest mate none of the players you mention have really set the world alight have they I mean sigurdsson hasnt really reached the level he was at swansea with a large amount of goals/assists in that time and neither has dempsey been able to replicate that form
ReplyDeletebut the truth of the matter is spurs identify a player and then move quickly for him they signed holtby and he was favirourite to join aresnal and then next thing you no the deal is done they keep everything so quite and thats 1 thing i really like
ReplyDeletenot really we paid cole 110k a week not really peanuts but he was one expensive monkey
ReplyDeleteyou can't say sign him for less when somebody else comes in and signs him before us which has happened before twice in the last transfer window so you shouldnt really wait if you want to sign some1 there will be a chance of losing out on them
ReplyDeleteThis is what Tom Werner said in November 2012.
ReplyDelete“Our intention is to strengthen but actions will speak louder than words,” he
said. “We are playing better and better each week.Obviously, we have made some
mistakes in the past but our intention is to deliver, strengthen the squad and
move forward.
“We know that January is a challenging time and I don’t want to say we’ve got
x or y but, hopefully, the fans will be pleased with what we do accomplish.” Did FSG make any guarantees for the January window? They said that they would add players and have already done so with Sturridge. In Henry's open letter at the start of the season he said that the club will never be held ransom again with regards to transfers or wages. Obviously they are sticking to their guns with Ince and they did the same with Dempsey and Sigurddson.Signing players at 250k a week i.e. Sneijder is just looking for trouble. Why has he only featured six times for Inter this season?
the guy was nearing the end of his contract and wanted first team football he was told he had to work for it and not demand it so he decided to leave we never let him go but even if we did its not like this is the first time that has ever happened when you look back barca let fabregas leave before re-signing him for £30-40mill
ReplyDeleteCouldn't agree more...Just buy him!
ReplyDeleteince is just no way worth 6 -8m .......for that money we are as well going for walcott
ReplyDeleteb"llshit
ReplyDeleteI agree 100% with you on how Spurs deal with their transfers. But this in itself is the reason I am a little worried.....I have bought into the whole Brendan Rodgers 'plan' thing fully and he has my whole backing. (I know some will not agree with me on that but so be it.) I do see improvement in our philosophy of play and am indeed anxious for it to succeed. But to challenge where we need to be challenging is going to take a little backing from the owners. They blatantly went on record stating mistakes from the summer would be put right at the earliest opportunity, giving everyone hope that a promising project would bear fruit with their financial backing. The same mistakes are being portrayed again! Yes we are grateful to have Cole off the books(good luck Joe btw) but that is still one less squad player. Morgan goes out on loan, another squad player down. Talk of Sahin's possible release, another potential loss. ONE addition to date and talk of 'maybe one more' is another F... up that could be enormously costly for any aspirations of Europe, let alone top four! Can we afford to be releasing more players than we bring in? This is not the fault of Rodgers (who I believe has probably given a list of potential signings to the appropriate people) but lies purely at the feet of men who could let themselves down drastically if they don't back up their promises! Meanwhile I'll sit quietly with an amount of jealousy, and watch while the likes of Spurs go about their business giving their supporters hope of new, exciting adventures.....
ReplyDeleteIt was Hicks and Gillett that agreed to that deal not FSG. I also think it was 90k which is still too much for him, that's why we paid him off to leave...
ReplyDeleteI have absolutely no desire to see Sneidjer come at even half those wages you mention! And I don't rate him that highly for him to come here at all really, fullstop. You have appeared to misinterpret a comment I made regarding names being associated with us that could be referred to as 'experienced quality'. As with the promises made by FSG and the helpful statement you print, they clearly admit to making mistakes, and correct me if I'm wrong (which I welcome) but releasing two, possibly three players and adding one is NOT strengthening the squad, regardless of how good the incoming player may be! I am a fan (massively) and am very excited by the Sturridge deal, but if that is it for this window then, no, I as a fan am not satisfied and believe they have not lived up to their statement...I do agree with you however that we shouldn't be held to ransom for anyone and apologise if I came over as implying this was the case and we should bankrupt ourselves.
ReplyDeleteIf Zaha is supposedly worth £20m, I don't understand how Ince, who plays in the same position in the same league, but to a much higher standard, is somehow worth so much less :-/
ReplyDeleteApparently Dempsey got £90k p/w on a 3 year contract (~£13m total) from Tottenham. If that is the money he was looking for, I can totally understand LFC baulking at the terms and backing out.
ReplyDeleteNevermind the fact that I think he was totally the wrong type of player to be looking at in the first place. Sturridge is a MUCH better fit imo.
Walcott won't be going anywhere for less than £8m.
ReplyDeleteAnd we're probably far too late to be seriously considered as a viable destination now anyway.
Walcott won't be going anywhere for less than £8m. And his wages will at least double those that Ince would command.
ReplyDeleteEitherways, we're likely out of the running for Walcott's signature now anyway. Too little, too late.
funny.....
ReplyDeletetbh I think Spurs' spending is becoming a bit haphazard again, with them just picking up players for the sake of it, regardless of how the player will fit in at the club or not.
ReplyDeleteThey are undoubtedly picking up some good players, but even they would be better off focusing their expenditure on players that fit specific needs, or players likely to become 'elite quality' rather than just picking up a bunch of 'bargains'.
I still don't think it would be overly difficult, or expensive, to build up a better squad than theirs again within a year or so.
I just wanted to make a point that players like Sneijder and Villa are completely out of the question because it will be totally contradicting FSG's plan of their long term vision.
ReplyDeleteWe can still sign Ince but that is if Blackpool do not hold us ransom. FSG don't mind spending money i.e. winter and summer of 2011 but Henry clearly stated when he wrote his open letter at the start of the season that being held ransom will never happen again so they are keeping to their promises.
Sigurdsson's transfer fee was not the problem. It was the value for money we were going to get for paying the wages Spurs had offered him. Dempsey would have come. Fulham wanted to sign Henderson at the time but Henderson did not want to go. It was going to be Henderson plus cash for Dempsey but that did not work out which also cannot fully be blamed on FSG. We can thank our lucky stars that Sigurdsson or Dempsey did not come as they have not done much at Spurs and if they did join LFC it would have most probably hindered Suso and Sterling's progress.
The January window is not over yet, Ince can still sign but that is down to whether Blackpool are going to hold us ransom which clearly they are and that is not FSG's fault.
He's their player. Liverpool do not have a God-given right to sign a player just because the club wants him. Blackpool are simply saying "This is the price. if you want him, buy him, if not, don't. It's your choice." That's fair enough.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the feedback. I agree with most of what you say but I must point out, the issue of WHICH player did or didn't come is not the issue I have a problem with, not now, or last summer; (as I was panicking from the moment it was made public that we were even TRYING to get Dempsey let alone FAILING to get him!) And as I mentioned earlier I am fully behind the 'plan'. But if we are to seriously move up the table we have to financially compete at least at some level. For us to pay now for mistakes made and money overspent during a previous regime is a valid point which no doubt is still hurting, but if we have serious aspirations they don't come for nothing! I'm realistic enough that I do not see mega money deals happening any time soon but we have to make SOME moves NOW or we are in real danger of not only being left behind but OVERTAKEN by the likes of Spurs, Everton, West Brom etc..... Scary, no?.... Surely the only place where this can be directed is towards the money men to financially address and rectify asap!
ReplyDeleteYou both have valid points -
ReplyDeleteI agree that LFC is still understrength; adding adding Ince would give plenty of options and it would be nice to get another left back for cover.
FSG have made mistakes in the summer, and they realize that - I wish they'd fought harder to keep hold of Kuyt given our limited striking options - that experience would have been invaluable, but they have the best interests of LFC in mind - strengthening whilst not paying over the odds for players. At this point they're probably wishing that they loaned out Ince. But if he doesn't come this window I'd hardly say that FSG are not standing by their statement, because during the summer the club added Assaidi and Yesel - Yesel is a young prospect and Assaidi hasn't been featured but that's not FSG's fault. Not saying they shouldn't try for Ince, but I won't slander them for not backing up their statement if it doesn't.
Ince isn't free in the summer, his contract expires but there is a clause in his contract that allows Blackpool to extend it a further 12 months on current terms, that is standard in Blackpool contracts. So, pay up or wait 18 months
ReplyDeleteHave you looked at FSG's spend since they took over the club?
ReplyDeletePay peanuts, get monkey's? What about when they overpay?
Downing, Hendo? They still get monkeys. So what's wrong with not being held for ransom everytime they enquire about a player?
You make it sound like rich oil barons who pump out hundreds of millions of pounds are just queing up to buy LFC. Not gonna happen with FFP; take pride in supporting a club who will continue to develop from the grass roots, not the chelseas and citys that buy titles and overinflate transfer fees and wages.
i didnt think compensation would apply because isnt it mostly to cover training and coaching fees? if he was here for most of his time the compensation shouldnt be that high. but im not 100% sure
ReplyDeleteI think Blackpool are becoming just like aston villa. they'll hold on to their players until they get the most out of the fees.
ReplyDeleteIMO villa always manage to get more than what players are worth and Blackpool stayed strong until they got 8m for adam and now they are doing it again
I think you are right. Holtby doesnt look to be the dominant force the media is making him out to be. German Henderson in my opinion.
ReplyDeleteWhen people say British is over priced and overrated sometimes the assume just because they are not british they will be better.
As usual we are seen as a soft touch & blackpool are trying to rear end us good & proper, they are takin the proverbial p***. Ince is a good prospect who,s still unprovrn in the prem league, id sooner we walked away from this deal than get shafted again, we need to send a clear message out that the days of us being screwed for every shekel are over!!
ReplyDeleteI spoke to someone interesting today who was on about the interesting person you was speaking to, and they said the interesting person you was talking to isn't interesting at all and chats complete Sh1te
ReplyDeleteI know the bloke who cleans the bogs in the anny rd end, he told me messi is flyin in mon morn as his wet dream is to play for the mighty reds :)
ReplyDeleteYeah Kuyt would have helped with his experience but would have depended on when his contract was going to end. If Kuyt was going to stay we would have had to extend his contract and increased his already high wages and at the age of 32 that just would not have made sense and same with Maxi.
ReplyDeleteThere is method to FSG's madness.
The other day I made a comment about Van Persie signing for UTD.
Now there is nothing wrong with paying 24 million for Van Persie as he will without a doubt score goals
but
If reports are true then this deal is total and utter negligence of spending money because it is said that RVP is on 250k a week for the next four years. On top of that he will get 10 million if he sees out his contract at UTD.
So that is 48 million for wages over 4 years plus the 10 million should he see out his contract plus the 24 million transfer fee.
RVP is 29 now. 82 million in total for four years on one player who has plus/minus another two years left at performing at his best???
And apparently the 82 million excludes any bonuses RVP gets if UTD win trophies.
It's a bit funny but lay off the guy, not everyones first language is English and not everyone is so fluent. But that's how good Liverpool Kop is it attracts viewers all over the world ;-)
ReplyDeleteThe player is ready and waiting even his dads involved trying to get the deal over the line.This is all about greed nothing else, player only gets involved to agree terms of the contract.
ReplyDeleteThat's the thanks you get for loaning out Shelvey to them!
Could not agree more, has everyone forgot about when we loaned out Shelvey to them? and that's the thanks you get!!!
ReplyDeleteI get what you mean by the high amount total spent on RVP. but at some point you have to invest to win rather than invest for a profit dont you? i mean it is a competition and that signing has helped them get a nice lead on city.
ReplyDeleteJust to be clear i am all for the rodgers plan and system but i think united did the right thing in this scenario.
Well said. I personally like the idea of telling clubs to nick off when they ask for too much. i read somewhere that chelsea even took the agent fees for the sturridge deal because liverpool said no.
ReplyDeleteits gonna suck at first because we are going to be in these long dragged out negotiations and miss out on some players but eventually it will be for the greater good.
to make an omelette you gotta crack a few eggs unfortunately
Barca let Fabregas, pique and alba all go and bought them back? its the same scenario but they arent being told its bad business
ReplyDeletei think i know that bloke! he has the face and the ears yeah?
ReplyDeleteyeah and then we took him back and wouldnt send him back to them once we didnt need him. lol
ReplyDeleteMaybe the problem is they do remember the shelvey deal
a certain % of the fee will come back to us, I believe we cleverly put in a sell on clause! The time has come when we no longer can or should sign galactico type of players, so Wesley sneider is a no no. I think he turned us down when he moved from real to inter? i haven't seen to much of ince but it seems his dad dictates a lot of what goes on in his football career. we do need more depth whether ince is the man is another question.
ReplyDeleteForget Ince if Blackpool wants more. I am not sure we should go overboard for Ince unless he is a Rooney in the making. If not, might as well spend the money on someone else .
ReplyDeletewell if we hadnt let him go for 250k then we wouldnt need to have this discussion , and far as blackpool are concerned its obvious he wants to come back to liverpool so why be so scabby far out uve made a large profit as it is with the player ,so let him go
ReplyDelete3 players on loan is needed now.... if v r not going to buy anyone...
ReplyDeleteFSG are not investing for a profit.
ReplyDeleteIf that was the case they would have sold Suarez to Juventus in the winter 2012 transfer window, Skrtel to Man City and Agger to Barcelona which they did not do. Instead the extended all three players contracts.
If FSG were planning on making a profit then selling Suarez was the perfect opportunity in the 2012 summer transfer window. Not only Juventus wanted to sign Suarez...
Correction, would have sold all three players in the summer of 2012.
ReplyDeleteyeah that him
ReplyDeleteyou missed my point ...i dont nesserasrily mean walcott...what i mean is once you start going to certain ammounts there are provem players out there ....for all his potential ince is performing in the championship its not a given it will translate to the Prem...walcott is a young proven england international si its a given
ReplyDeleteperhaps liverpool could learn a thing or two from these guys.....its called running a buisness buy as cheap as possible sell as dear as possible ...
ReplyDeleteI believe we should sign him! In the case of transfer legacy ( beside funds ) he is the right youong fresh blood for our squad. Can't see why we are affraid to spend much little than Daglish era? We loosing Holtby and now it seems Fulham ready to highjack Buttland? Can't FSG serious backing up Rodgers who's proven better than Daglish? We are LIVERPOOL! Best players should play here!
ReplyDeletei really dont see what the problem is morgan was not playing first team football and has went out for games and is back sometime in febuary joe cole is gone and been replaced by sturridge we dont now if sahin is going anywhere and if he does we have lucas,allen shelvey,gerrard and hendo really dont see the problem your talking aboutr
ReplyDeleteplus parachute payments if they go back down after. Sure they got a way to go to even hit the play-off places, but like you said with Ince they have a better chance, so why would they want to sell cheap, just to make a different team happy.
ReplyDeleteI agree, All trophies are important I think, as it keeps players happy, and gives fans something to cheer about. Of course it cant come at the expense of the league, but nor should it come less, it should be a case of going for both/all
ReplyDeleteSeems that Ince isn't against a move to Liverpool. He surely will remember Blackpool's stance as soon as they wish to extend his contract. They may end up losing him for nothing in the relatively near future and may be overlooked when asking to loan players from us again.
ReplyDeleteSorry dude, was just having a little moan......all better now :)
ReplyDeleteYe agree about that but it was £250,000 they paid us so i dont think it should go up that much in 18mths even if it goes up to 2/3 mill not a bad return for them.
ReplyDeleteNot to mention:
ReplyDeleteHow?
Agreed, my first language is Australian
ReplyDeleteNo, I think what you'll find is FSG aren't going to spend more money than they think a player is worth, this isn't a bad thing, paying more than a player is worth has been something that has cursed Liverpool for a long time and FSG are rectifying that. Good on them
ReplyDeleteArguing over 1.5 million for a 30 million pound player is one thing, arguing over 1.5 million over a 4 or 5 million pound player is completely another thing. This is an attempt by a club who are buying off trying to get as much as they can for him, more than the player is worth, FSG are saying enough is enough.
ReplyDeleteNo, it's clubs selling as dear as possible to Liverpool, FSG fell for it once, they are not falling for it again. If a player is worth 4 million to any other club, why is he 6 or 7 million for us to buy? If a club asks for over the worth of a player, especially if that is 20% over the worth, then FSG and Rodgers have shown they will back away from the deal, regardless of how much the player wants to come to Liverpool.
ReplyDeleteWithout being in the Champion's League, we will never be able to compete for these players, not just for financial reasons, but for footballing reasons too. We have a reputation of turning the right players into world class footballers and we don't want to turn into a Chelsea or a Manchester City and spend shedloads of money to buy the competition, we want to get there with our dignity intact.
ReplyDeleteInce signed with Blackpool in August, which means that this was before the manager stubbornly stuck to his flop signings. So what you say is false.
ReplyDeleteWhy? Because we are refusing to be held to ransom and Tottenham are paying that ransom? If that's the case, then let them. For the right player, we will pay, but we will not pay over the odds for them.
ReplyDeleteThe truth is that Liverpool didn't want to pay what the player's agents and clubs were asking, Tottenham did and the players in question have hardly set the Premier League alight, so it could be said that Liverpool were right not to overpay.
ReplyDeleteEverton also let go Phil Jagielka and Leighton Baines and bought them back as well.
ReplyDeleteZaha is worth 20 million for the club who pays that ransom and to the club selling him who don't really want to sell him so put in an astronomical figure in, he is not a player we rate for 20 million, Ince is a player we supposedly want and at the right price, if we don't get him for the right price, we will let the deal go.
ReplyDeleteWhy can't Sturridge play in the Europa League? He played in the Champion's League which is a different competition, he has not played in the Europa League this season, therefore is not cup tied for that competition. Likewise, if a player plays in the League Cup, that does not mean he is cup tied for the FA Cup
ReplyDeleteWhat do you mean once we didn't need him? We loaned him out to Blackpool, Lucas got injured, which was a season long injury, we recalled him because we needed him for depth, we had no obligation to send him back and now he has gone on to become an important member of our squad. We gave Blackpool the privilege of taking Shelvey on loan, we could have sent him to a host of other clubs.
ReplyDeleteWho's to say other than tabloids that we were in for Holtby in the first place? Same goes for Butland. And we aren't afraid to spend for the right player, but we aren't going to be held to ransom. Simple as that.
ReplyDeletehold on mate . hes from norris green!!
ReplyDeletespoke to same fella myself told me martin oneiil has just bought a house on the wirral . 41 houses hes got now in west kirkby
ReplyDeleteTBH with you you are probably right but with lucas gone we used spearing because shelvey cant tackle. what came to mind for me what gerrard getting healthy we didnt need shelvey anymore. and once again im not 100% about this but didnt there manager say something like we didnt get him back because liverpool didnt like him talking about there player in the media.
ReplyDeleteShelvey can tackle, he is a bit reckless at times, much like Gerrard was at his age, but he is a better option than Spearing. Good thing about Shelvey is he is versatile, Spearing isn't.
ReplyDeleteHello from Sydney :P
ReplyDeleteAllo, allo, are you german mate, lol
ReplyDeleteyeah it was a hell of an expensive mistake we had to pay him off for the rest of his contract which came up to around £3-4mill so for some1 we got free he left a dent in the pockets of the new owners rather than the men eho signed the contract
ReplyDeleteregardless of who they may be signing or what there transfer policy is they still go about there business super quitely and with great efficeny which allows them to negotiate better prices as there are no other teams that are challeging them for the player and in regards to the way they are spending I believe that they have been way more successful than we have in the transfer market than we have over the past 3-4 years bar suarez and that can be told by the fact that they are doing well in the league and have managed to qualify for champions league and would have again if chelsea never 1
ReplyDeletethats always seems to be the case i remember when we went for gareth barry we offered 12 and we were turned down and told to pay 18mil yet the following summer he signs for city for 11mill
ReplyDeletehes refering to dalglish when he says stubborn guy just saying thought that was pretty self exlpanitory
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