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1/01/2013 12:41:00 pm

'He's a coward' - Angry Hamann in scathing attack on £4m star over 'assault'...

Liverpool legend Dietmar Hamann has accused launched a withering attack on Sebastian Bassong for 'assualting' Samir Nasri during Man City's recent 4-3 victory over Norwich at Carrow Road.

During the first half, Bassong scythed down Nasri, who reacted badly, and tried to headbutt the defender in apparent retaliation.

This inevitably led to the France international being red-carded by the referee, yet Bassong received only a yellow card for his aggressive challenge.

You can view the challenge in question below:

1356796534993 Gif : The upending Sebastien Bassong tackle that provoked Samir Nasris retaliation


Incensed with what he described as an 'assualt', Hamann raged:

"Bassong's challenge is a coward's one. What was Nasri meant to do? Bas follows through and takes Nasri out that should be a red card offence.

"He didn't win the ball - he was a yard ahead of Nasri and took him out for no reason. Everybody who thinks Bassong's is a good challenge wants to watch it again. It's assault"


To be fair, Bassong got the ball before the man, but he definitely followed through, and we've seen red cards given for a hell of a lot less in the past.

Jaimie Kanwar





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117 Comments :

Mark Whitelaw said...

Whilst I agree the tackle was brutal, there's still no reason to condone his retaliation. 

Jay said...

What is Nasri supposed to do? Try to avoid the challenge that he can see coming, instead of just turning his face like the little b*tch that he is! He clearly wanted no part of the challenge, so just get his little ass out of the way and he's good.

What was Bassong supposed to do? Slide for the ball and then completely defy the law of physics in stopping immediately? Football is supposed to be a man's game and a contact sport - get the girls out to play their own game.

orme said...

It was intentional foul, maybe even an assault, but do we really care?

Jason Carr said...

did it involve lfc,sorry cannot see the point i think we have enough problems of our own without getting involved in some girls petty arguement

Jaimie K said...

You should know by now that this site is not just soley about LFC related issues. That would be narrow-minded. Football is not just about LFC; there are lots of other things going on that are of interest.

Mark Maloney said...

spot on Jay, great tackle, no way can he stop dead once the tackle is made.  Anyone who thinks different is a fool.

Jason Carr said...

joking lol,any idea when the notifications problem is going to be fixed its driving me potty

Barry-henderson said...

Jay - If you watched women's football, you'd see less diving, playacting and rolling around on the floor exaggerating every challenge. You're a plank m8. Your post doesn't even make grammatical sense. Idiot. 

Carl said...

so nasri was so badly hurt, he managed to jump up an head butt bassong, mind you wasn't much of a head butt, more rubbing foreheads

RedX said...

It seemed to me more like a head to head confrontation than a headbut by either player. For that instance only, a yellow to both would have been enough.  If I was the referee, I would also have sent Bassong off. That tackle was two footed, from the back and very aggressive. While he did get the ball, it was too hard and dangerous. Last year, Spearing got sent off vs. Fulham for a tamer and cleaner tackle while Kompany got sent off vs. Man.UTD for a two footed but very tame tackle compared to this one.

Getting to the ball first is irrelevant if you use excessive force to do so. It's classified as dangerous play just as much as a high extended foot is classified as dangerous play. The speed with which Bassong went in was too hard and reckless, so much so that he followed through Nasri's body completely. That's just too excessive and fully worth of a red.

Arafat said...

Correct If I'm Wrong, But The Website Name Is liverpool-kop.com.. And That's The Only Reason I View It, And Everyone Else.. So Stop Putting Non Lfc News.. And All You Ever Post Is Just Random Incomplete Quotes.. And Only The Bad Times.. I Never See Your Articles When Liverpool Is Winning.. So Stop Be Stubborn And Respect People's Views.. No Bun Intended..

Greg | Liverpool Kopites said...

He did get the ball first but the follow through probably warranted a yellow based on today's standards. Nasri should've known better than to retaliate though.

Jaimie K said...

Yeah, it'a annoying, but it's down to Disqus. I can't do anything about it unfortunately. They're usually pretty fast at fixing things, so it should be done soon.

Jason Carr said...

no problem

Mfimfi said...

looks like rodgers is doing a roy!

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11661/8375248?

arthur blundell said...

So, its jan 1,whowill be the first to blink?

Jason Carr said...

on another subject   rodgers says wait until maech to judge us ....sounds like the excuses are starting to come already

Greg said...

This page is it Liverpool Kop or Liverpool Didi?

Darren1177 said...

Football is a been destroyed by ref's, they should stand by the rules they told to
And not by there decision ie a foul in the middle of the pitch happens in the box is it not a penalty, if not then there should be a decision book and not a rules book
If every was was made explain his decision on why he gave one team a peno and the other team none when he has seen both offence i think we would have more consistency in games. I kno alot won't see it that way but too many matches are spoiled by the ref's decision and not the rule then bassong should have saw a see card.

Mfimfi said...

Sound like Roy to you?

Jason Carr said...

same b"llshit different manager

anteater71 said...

From that angle it doesn't look that bad really. Bassong plays the ball, feet not off the ground, Nasri sees it coming, but instead of jumping over the challenge just turns away and falls over dramatically. Call me old fashioned, but it didn't even deserve a  yellow. Retaliation on the other hand has been a red card offence as long as I can think back.

anteater71 said...

Sounds better than "I guarantee that we will finish in the top four" as we've been told in 2010 and then finish seventh.

Jason Carr said...

yes but not as good as we should be looking towards second last week lol

Chrisconnor48 said...

He won the ball !! He clearly won the ball !! I think Didi is the one that needs to watch it again !!

He slides in.. not an offence yet !! .. ahead of Nasri .. which means he wasn't late !!.. plays the ball with the side of his foot.. studs not showing in a dangerous manner.. off Nasri and out for a throw .. It was NOT two footed like some people are commenting.. clearly his right leg remains on the ground whilst sliding in.

Great tackle .. he can hardly slide in , win the ball and just stop now can he ??

Just a few things.. One- I'm surprised at Didi , a tough tackling German himself calling this assult .. Give over !!

Two- Just shows you the play acting that goes on with some of these guys.. Nasri is rolling round in 'agony' for a couple of seconds before miraculously  recovering to spring to his feet and try to stick the nut into Bassong .. Pathetic !

Three- There was a tackle earlier in the game by Kompany that was far more dangerous.. studs up .. and led to a city goal .. nobody on about that ..

Am I the only one that thinks it's a great tackle ?? Has the game or laws of the game changed so much ? So Nasri takes a tumble ?? Big swing !! Looks far more dramatic than it actually is ..

This is the guy who ducked behind his own wall a few weeks ago and cost his team a goal and the game in one of the most cowardly things I've seen in football in years !!

We should be protecting the GAME not over paid cowards like Nasri..

anteater71 said...

I think what Rodgers actually said was right. We should, on the long run, aim higher than fourth, but aiming for second now is way to early. That is about what he said, not that we will challenge for second this season. It is too easy to pull something out of context in order to make someone look like a fool (in this case Rodgers).

gilstrap said...

football is just about lfc and lfc only....As for the clip ...im quite happy to watch opposing teams kick 7 bells out of each other whats hamman doing trying to stop it.........l

Zanatos said...

Having looked at the vid a few times, he def got the ball first, and for me, there is not much he could do after that to stop the tackle. A few years ago this would have been seen as a great tackle. Times have changed though and even after watching a few times it is hard to tell if he trailing foot is off the ground too, if so he should have got a red card purely by the laws of todays game.

My own point of view is it was a good tackle, he got the ball. Nasri over reacted and was rightly sent off. In the speed of the game I cant see how any ref in the world would have the hindsight we had, and Nasri made it look like no ball was won, esp by his reaction, so well done to the ref for not also sending off Bassong.

Tackling is a part of football I don`t want us too lose. When the game is in full flow, and it is a 50/50 which it was, I think as long as the man gets the ball it shows his intent was to make a challenge, if his leg had been higher than yes a Red card, as it was not, good tackle.

Zanatos said...

I agree, but in the speed of the game not much Nasri could do. It isnt always possible to jump, he did make a meal of it though. Along with diving, which is the new hate game for football, milking it should also be a cardable offense. On our game the other day, one of theire players went down clutching his face, meaning the game had to stop, even though there wasnt any contact with his head, this is just as big in cheating as a dive is too me. Same for defenders cheating by pulling shirts. cheating is cheating, no matter what form it comes in, no one form is worse than the other.

gilstrap said...

As for nasris headbutt ...someone should lend him a set of the boys from the blackstuff by Alan beasdale..in particular yossers story...now they where proper headbutts........

Zanatos said...

I don`t see anything wrong with BR saying that, I`m glad he has ideas above 4th, he might know it is unlikely, but I would rather have a manager who wanted to win, than just went, nah were about a 8th place team, lets not try. I don`t think we should knock managers either for stating they want a higher position. Confidence is so important, and showing ambition is a good thing, it has been gone from this club for ages, all I hear is talk about we can`t sign this player or that player where not top 4, and people even knock BR for not signing top players, yet when he states we could be, he also gets knocked. The man can`t win with some people

Jason Carr said...

your right about he can,t win well not enough anyway

Zanatos said...

I dunno, I think it is a fair point. He is still building his team, it is just we are impatient. Once he gets in two more attacking players of his choice, and they have had a little time to gel, then it is a better place to judge him. While it would be great if every manager could come in and make a average team world beaters in 3 months, it just don`t happen. By the end of the season we will at least have a better view if he can make it. If his Jan transfers don`t work out, then that`s two sets of windows which didn`t really work, and it would be a better place to say, sorry you can`t do it. 

Zanatos said...

Or a tackle, challenge on a 50/50 which he won, and got the ball Ormister. Nasri over reacted, and rightly got sent off

Chrisconnor48 said...

So a slide tackle is ecxssive force is it ?? Please direct me to the rule that states this. I didn't realise that being first to a ball in a 50/50 challenge was an offence or their was a speed limit on players !!

Nasri pulled out of the tackle .. turned his back(again!!) on a challenge which is far more dangerous than the tackle itself.. which is why he is sent flying like the ballerina he is .

Anyone who has ever played the game or knows anything about the game will tell you that your more likely to get injured when pulling out of a tackle than when you to commit to it .

Fact is Bassong went in commited, legitimately and fairly into to the challenge.. fact is Nasri pulled out of it.

There is only one outcome in a scenario like this and you saw it.. Or did you !!!

Zanatos said...

While I agree, I do disagree on how much Nasri could do, at that speed there aint much either player can do. In fairness I think it was a 50/50 challenge, neither side doing anything wrong, up until Nasri lashed out. For the challenge no card for either side. If Nasri had won the ball it would have been Bassong hitting the deck. So again neither side were any worse than the other, or better. It was a good old fashioned challenge. Nasri reacted when there was no need to, and rightly got send off

gilstrap said...

 your right zanatos when tom ince signs we will start flying Lol...take no notice im only joking

Torreskedah said...

Hard and brutal tackle by Bassong.This tackle very bad from what Jonjo Shelvey been made for Jonny Evan at Anfield last year.Others clubs wiil save from reffree punishment but not for LFC.Reffree always unfair.with 20 game,LFC only have 1 penalty.So nice.....

anteater71 said...

No, you are not the only one who thinks it was a great tackle as it was a great tackle and no foul at all.

anteater71 said...

Come on Jaimie. My reply to Jason didn't contain any personal insult to anyone. Please approve it.

anteater71 said...

If he finds the time to turn, he surely will find the time to jump as well.

Jason Carr said...

lol

Zanatos said...

thats not true, you said the tooth fairy didn`t exist... I am now lost with life :-(

Zanatos said...

who knows, I still think there is nothing  with aiming high. I want a manager who wants 1st, who wants to sign the best players he can. Is ince that, who knows, prob not.

anteater71 said...

No, I wrote that Santa Claus didn't exist and the moon didn't consist of cheese.

anteater71 said...

Ah well, nice to remind me what your reply would have been anyway :-)

Zanatos said...

do you think he was looking for the foul then? 

Zanatos said...

I agree it was a great tackle. The laws of the game have changed though, it now includes intent. So even if you missed the player you can get sent off, although in this case there was also clearly no intent and he got the ball clean and first, trailing foot not out either, so no yellow card for me.

Zanatos said...

Or watch a highlight if Zindanes parting game!

Jobsy said...

The famous "wait till whenever to judge us" the first sign of a manager knowing he is failing.. I cannot remember a manager asking that question and then actually turning around the situation, he is out of his depth and he has realised the fans know it and his salesman patter is not working like it did!

Jason Carr said...

no just find it funny that your comment got stopped,you don,t know my reply because i don,t know your question ;-)

Jason Carr said...

we all want a manager who wants 1st place and sign the best players he can.is rodgers that,prob not.

anteater71 said...

Was only joking, hence the smiley.

anteater71 said...

Good question. He surly didn't try to evade the challenge. His theatrics and subsequent reaction tell the rest of the story.

Jason Carr said...

you really have got to start looking at the owners,if they are happy with is perfomances i don,t know who i want out 1st them or him

Zanatos said...

OMG I hate you ;-) ... hang on who was that creepy man on xmas eve in my room..... ohh nooooooooo

Jason Carr said...

sorry it must be that thing called humour i,ve told you before its lost on me;-)

Zanatos said...

we have won 5 of our last 7 games, things are getting better

Zanatos said...

kinda backfired then lol. You think the reaction went over the top to make the tackle look really bad, like look how angry I am? it is possible.

Jason Carr said...

whilst i don,t condone violence i would gladly give nasris a lesson on who to make the perfect headbut preferably on old whisky nose

anteater71 said...

No worries, none of us is perfect. I for one allegedly lack wisdom and apparently lack callousness...
:-)

anteater71 said...

Creepy men visit you in your room? We should call the police.

anteater71 said...

Didn't we make a deal ahead of our last match that you pack Rodgers bags if we lose but pack your own if we don't (again I consider this as friendly banter, just in case someone thinks I try to insult you).

Jobsy said...

He has brought in Assaidi (who he doesn't use for whatever reason), Borini (who looks like no more then a £3million pound player) and Allen who has been average at the very best, and now apparently he will take Sturridge for £12 million.. them signings are hardly the signings of a manager taking a club to the next level, they are signings of a manager who hasn't a clue as every manager who knows what he is doing is NOT interested in Sturridge as they know the problems he will bring, and none of those managers were anywhere insight when we signed Allen and Borini, I find it hard to believe players commanding fees between £11-£15 million pound had nobody else looking at them or maybe they did but their valuation was very different to Rodgers.

I wanted Rodgers to succeed but I know he isn't going to, he is out of his depth and ok he may be confident but confidence doesn't make him capable, the squad is depleted and its his fault, no manager worth his salary would have let so many players move on without having the replacements lined up, regardless what happens this season he cannot look for excuses as there are none, the squad is what it is due to his decisions and nobody else's.  

Jason Carr said...

we have played sides who ,no disrespect,we should be beating hands down

anteater71 said...

 Like when Rafa guaranteed a top four finish in 2010.

anteater71 said...

His reaction was over the top of course, but we shouldn't single out Nasri now. Unfortunately it happens all of the time with Drogba, Cristina Ronaldo and Robben being the worst I can remember in the past few years. We may well add Bale to this short list and countless others.

Suarez seems to do it a lot less now and I am glad about that as I don't enjoy watching our players doing it.

Jobsy said...

and so we should have, in fact we should have won our last 7 when you take into account the quality we have faced during them 7 games, but the 2 games were the opposition have actually had a go or turned up as some might say, we lost.

anteater71 said...

Seems to be fixed now. That leaves us with my reply to one of your comments which is still missing.

Jason Carr said...

no you made a deal ,i would be mad to except that even rodgers has to win sometimes ,and against one of the poorest sides i have seen in a long time ,we have got about as much chance of getting champions league ,as qpr have of staying up

Zanatos said...

There is actually a rule which states if both feet our off the ground it is a red card offense under the rules of intent, regardless of if you get the ball, the player or thin air. Were both feet off the ground??? I`m not sure, do I think this was even a yellow? nope, just pointing out the rule you asked for.

anteater71 said...

That tackle wasn't two-footed. Two-footed means with both legs going or being stretched forward. One of Bassong's legs is bent as can be clearly seen.

anteater71 said...

Nasri may wear a tutu skirt instead of shorts.

Jobsy said...

I aint a Rafa supporter mate, I appreciate what he did and I do believe he would do a better job then Rodgers, but people seem to forget the mistakes he made when calling for his return, I don't.

Zanatos said...

Until Sturridge has signed, how do you know he wont do well?? Assaidi was cheap, and may not be ready yet, Borini has been injured for ages, and Allen aint been that bad, he aint great but not that bad. Besides, even if they are poor, this is why I say let him make his jan deals and wait, a lot of things look right, 3 months is too soon to kick him. 

Jason Carr said...

dont think mine is lol its been a nightmare having to trawl through previous posts to reply to people

anteater71 said...

It would make exciting viewing if Rooney and Nasri exchanged head-butts.

Zanatos said...

yep, holding stockings off all things!

Zanatos said...

I always thought Drogba was the worst, just cause I remember that time when Reina cut his throat, and he dropped like he had been shoot. Weak ref`s and F.A as usual. I`m all for singling out players, just be good if others where too.

Jason Carr said...

it would indeed ,ps the posts situation is not fixed

Jobsy said...

Its his (Sturridge) attitude that concerns me, and I know Borini is injured but what I seen before the injury was enough, and for £15 million Allen as been at best average and when you take into account he is playing Rodgers system and has premier league experience he should have been better then he is for that price, and I have a feeling certain deals get attempted to appease fans but they know they are never going to materialize, clever tactic to use to go for a cheaper alternative.

Chrisconnor48 said...

Cheers mate , I'm well aware of the rule .. but Is it just me or am I the only one that can see his right foot is clearly on the ground and the only intent was to win the ball..

Yer man was saying it was two footed , it wasn't , from behind , it wasn't , (fact that nasri has his back to him at moment of contact is due to turning his back on the ball and tackle) and that the speed and agression of the tackle is too much.. WTF ?? I though this was a MAN'S game.

It was a though agressive tackle.. but FAIR and WELL WON

The only coward in this tea cup in a storm is Nasri himself.. turns his back on a challenge ..

I've said it already but it's the GAME itself that needs protecting not these overpaid prima donnas

Zanatos said...

What about his attitude is it that worrys you? I have read alot of people saying the same, but never seen in print anything bad said by him. Don`t get me wrong I hate his stupid dance lol

Chrisconnor48 said...

Spot on ..

If he plays down talk of top 4 and beyond he's cementing our position a mid table club, lacking ambition , this is LFC bla bla bla ..

If he talks us up.. and about restoring us to where we belong he gets slated ..

Personally I prefer to be talking up .. but some people have their own BR's agenda and will slate him regardless.

anteater71 said...

Well, I just got redirected to your message and the entire tree of messages. Seems to work for me right now.

anteater71 said...

It probably would be easier to single out the players who don't play-act.

Jobsy said...

He has Diva like qualities lol

He is known for been moody and can be childish by all accounts, expects things his own way, I think that's why he has struggled to make the impact many believed he would, and yes his dance is enough to put a lot off too lol

anteater71 said...

Good Lord! You are in danger mate. Hope you are well trained in martial arts. Kick the bejesus out of these creepy men with their stockings. Just what they deserve.

anteater71 said...

Agreed. It surely was a pain in the posteriour.

anteater71 said...

Did you believe that we would challenge for CL qualification this season? I didn't and how would I. We've let go many of our more experienced players in order to get the wage-bill down to the level of a club that's been out of the CL for a few years.

Jason Carr said...

still not on mine i might log out and back in

anteater71 said...

Never claimed you were. Just wanted to point out one of his 'mistakes', because, as you've said, there are many out there who turn a blind eye on his failings.

J Carr123275 said...

ii

anteater71 said...

Ah, now it is back to "normal" service for me too. You don't bring me much good fortune :-)

Jason carr said...

discuss is driving me mad

Jason Carr said...

grrrrr

billythecat said...

a great tackle . they dont make boots with brakes on .100%good solid tackle

Watt D. Hehl said...

Hamann seems pretty out spoken. As for the play, I thought nowadays they call those type of tackles as red. He got the ball but there was a lot of follow through. 

Gary said...

The tackle was good but it was UNNECESSARY. Bassong could have easily nipped that out with a toe but he chose to go flying in instead. Disregard for Nasri's safety was definitely there so you can consider it assault, this is also very similar to Shelvey's sending off vs Man United except that the other player also lunged in as well. 

Jason Halfpenny said...

You gives a feck what any of you City haters think, All us City fans know referees have it in for us. It's the only way the FA can hinder us from winning the title again, everyone know the top two suits at the FA are United fans (one is even a chief executive for Man United).

Bassong should have been sent off and Nasri should have received a yellow, but then we are the mighty Manchester City. If Sheikh Mansour bought out your clubs you would be singing a different fecking tune you hypocritical cnuts

liverpool4life565 said...

Fair tackle. Bassong got the ball.... Nasri is like a girl anyway :)

billythecat said...

was it the ghost of jimmy savile!!!

billythecat said...

happy new year to u to and all the interbreds from manchester .you should change your name from halfpenny to haifwit . what a t*t .jamie ban this fool or should it be tool!!!

Tuomas Pukki said...

i cant see the foul. took the ball, doest seem to be studs first and not a two footed lunge. he pulls his right leg under him as he slides.

didnt see the game nor, any other angle of the challenge, but viewing that, im surprised it is even at question. Nice challenge. and mind me, its not a defenders oppinnion, ive played as a striker all my life.

billythecat said...

my last commett jk?

Peter_Maxwell said...

I disagree that football is a contact sport.  Rubgy, AFL, Gridiron, etc are contact sports, where you need to tackle the player are contact sports, football, IMO, is a limited contact sport, where contact with other players is incidental in getting that ball.  Therew is nop rule that says as long as you make some contact with the ball you can take out the player.

Peter_Maxwell said...

That being said, I'm not sure how bad the tackle in question was, it's hard to see from the picture above

anteater71 said...

Have read all comments on here, but couldn't find any City haters. Paranoia? You may find that most Liverpool supporters would like to see you (or any other club) win the league rather than your neighbours. As long as we can't win it that is.

And as for refs having it in for you this season, well, it's the same for us. Fans of a few other clubs may well lay the same claim.

Find your last sentence pretty unwarranted. Do you have personal problems? No need to call (all of us) cunts and telling us to die. So, this next one is just for you: Without you Sheikh you were nothing. As soon as he gets bored with financing your personal arrogance you'll be nothing again. I don't hate your club, I just don't care about it.

che said...

bassong gets the ball 

arthur blundell said...

One word for you pal MEDICATION.

Jason Carr said...

i did if we had kept kenny i really thought we would have pushed on this year

anteater71 said...

That is an interesting view indeed and it is very much the opposite of what I thought. My gut feeling was that we would be relegated had we kept Kenny.

jonny said...

Pitty is that making contact with a player after taking the ball has been outlawed. He should never have attempted the tackle. Its only a matter of time and that will be a red card. 

jonny said...

No In fact the law is you cant make any contact when attempting to tackle for the ball. Only time contact is suppose to be allowed is if both players are contesting for the ball and neither is considered to have control of it.

Jason Carr said...

every one as there own opinion imo we would have had a lot more points in the league than we have managed under rodgers,most of kennys signings are steadely improving and who knows who he would have bought,the fact is caroll and adams apart,the others are at the moment getting more game time than rodgers own signings

Jamie said...

If only more players and Referees thought like you.. footy would be back to it's old 'grin and bear it' rough and tumble.. too many pussies in the modern game trying to get people sent off with overeactions.. wimps, get a grip.... 

anteater71 said...

Sure, and it would be boring without your views to be honest.

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