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1/06/2012 07:10:00 pm

LINE-UP vs Oldham: Gerrard and Shelvey start. Carroll dropped...

Andy Carroll has surprisingly been dropped for tonight's FA Cup 3rd round tie against Bolton, but Steven Gerrard returns to the starting line-up, as does Jonjo Shelvey, Fabio Aurelio and Jamie Carragher.

Here is the team:

Reina, Kelly, Carragher, Aurelio, Gerrard, Spearing, Kuyt. Shelvey, Maxi, Bellamy.

SUBS: Doni, Flanagan, Henderson, Adam, Skrtel, Doni, Carroll

Possible formation:




-------------------------- Reina

Kelly -------- Coates ---------- Carragher ------ Aurelio

------------------- Gerrard ---- Spearing ---------

Kuyt -------------------- Shelvey ------------------- Maxi

------------------------- Bellamy

Carroll's relegation to the bench is not a good sign for the big man; he desperately needs a goal, and you'd think that Oldham at home would present an ideal opportunity to get on the scoresheet. The fact that Kenny has dropped him could mean that he's finally lost patience.




Jaimie Kanwar


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57 Comments :

Jimmykntwar said...

Stop pretending to be a LFC fan kuntwar.

Zaki Samsudin said...

Reina should've been dropped after his performance against Man City. And Doni hasn't played at all since he came.

flauvio said...

Perfect opportunity to give Carroll some game time and perhaps even a goal - should have replaced Kuyt, who was shocking against City.

Brian_o_Connell said...

carroll deserves to be dropped after his last two displays.
big call from kenny all the same to drop him against lower league opposition.

jj said...

Carroll rested!!!

Shane said...

Ah! so Andy's being rested. You wouldn't want Liverpool number one striker to pick up an injury would you. On a serious note glad to see Agger out for this one, he deserves his day off.

Septimus_severus said...

Bare in mind I'm actually watching this game but searching through blogs and news on Liverpool.
This shows just how POOR the performance is.
Oldham are the better team after 25 mins into the first half.

Jaimie K said...

Agreed. No shots on target in the first 25 minutes, and Bolton have had the better chances. Our defence looks dodgy too; Coates and Carra have both made mistakes.

Jaimie K said...

Oldham 1-0 ahead (!)

Ro said...

Carroll should be playing in theses games or sell him, make ur mind kenny.  Oh... oldham have just scored, surprise, surprise tomato ketchup!! 

Jaimie K said...

1-1. Bellamy deflection

Ro said...

Make ur mind up kenny, either play Carroll or get rid of him..surprise surprise oldham are playing well and have looked really dangerous!!

Septimus_severus said...

I can't believe this is Liverpool Football Club's 1st Team which came Second in the Premier League in 2008/9.
WTF has happend?
I keep hpoing we'll improve but to be honest we've gone backwards since 2008/9.
How many of the purchases under Hodgson and Dalglish would get into that 2008/2009 1st Team?

Red4life said...

What an absolute dire performance in the first half so far. Maxi's dive was spectacular to be honest and our first goal was a bit fortunate I would say.

Sometimes you need luck they say, and we are lucky to be ahead at this point of time. 

C M said...

its not really though is it? No Alonso, Mascherano, Torres.. truly world class performers (at the time).

However, we have certainly went backwards, its were we go next after this obvious period of transition that is important at this point. 

Ro said...

Great penalty from gerrard.....adam and co watch and learn. Kuyt is getting worse by the day, surplus to requirements im afraid!!! Can watch the game live on stream for free

Ashbourne said...

Downing is warming up to come on.  My anger level has just risen 10 notches.  Best thing to happen to LFC this season is for Downing to break his legs.  That way we don't see him in red shirt for a while!

C M said...

Get a third goal. Then get Gerrard and Bellamy off. Bigger matches ahead

Septimus_severus said...

2008 > 2009 First Team

------------------------Reina


Arbeloa ------------Carragher----------Agger--------------Aureilo


Kuyt----------------Mascherano--------Alonso------------Reiera


------------------------Gerrard


-----------------------------------Torres


I'd argue that not ONE SINGLE purchase since 2008-09 Season Nor since 
Hodgson or Dalglish has arrived would get into that side.

Why have we not bought players of similar quality?

Simple We've not Native this buy British stuff is killing us and you can't use the new home grown rule as a excuse.

There is no way Downing Adam Henderson Coates Carroll would get into that side.
The only purchases that MIGHT have got in are Suarez ,Bellamy??? (doesn't count as he was bought by Rafa anyway).

Unbelievable rubbish....S**T purchases 

Septimus_severus said...

Opps I forgot Enrique

C M said...

there is no doubt Benitez assembled a great first XI, under tighter constraints Dalglish appears to be under now, but be an even more interesting comparison if you posted one of the sides Benitez played in early Cup competition that year. 

Red4life said...

Drum roll...

How many of the above mentioned players won a trophy with Liverpool football Club which is the most important part?

Give us the answer please Septimus...

Red4life said...

Just to spur you on with your answer Septimus...
 
Here is another....
 
Drum roll...

Septimus_severus said...

CM Ok  Here goes,
----------------------------Reina
Deggen--------Skertel-------------Hyppia------------Dossena,

Benayoun---------Lucas------------Spearing----------Babel

----------------------Keane

----------------------------Ngog 

Red4life said...

YES PLEASE

Andy Carroll!!!

What a finish. Exactly what he needed :)

Red4life said...

See you can't answer the question mate...

Red4life said...

Oh my goodness

This is not a good night for the Carroll and Downing haters...

C M said...

maybe, just maybe

jj said...

 Great these new signings are!!!!!!!!!!!!!

red_rooster said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5C5DWywIHCU look and weep

Septimus_severus said...

Excellent goal by Carroll

Madness said...

Just to butt in - they may not have won a trophy but they were top scorers, and the best Liverpool performing team in the Premiership era with our highest points tally, they also swept aside a multi million pound Madrid side like they were Oldham at Anfield.

I suppose in theory you are correct, we did not win the Premiership nor the CL that year but the 08/09 performance all round was superb for fans which is why we remember it - but dont you recall the feeling of being in the title race up untill May ? Hopefully we can experience it again but it will take a few years.

Red4life said...

Hey Septimus

Still not able to answer the question of how many players from the 2008/2009 team managed to win a trophy in their LFC career? 

Red4life said...

That does not answer the question...

How many players from the 2008/2009 team have won a trophy in their LFC career?

jj said...

Problem is finishing 2nd,3rd and 4th is trophy now a days with getting into the Champions League, teams seem to give up going for the title and are happy just to finish top 4.

Septimus_severus said...

JJ by that logic we should not have won the champions league in 2005 

Septimus_severus said...

What this quiz night ?

You wanna take a poll and see how many fans would rather that team than the current one?
Seeing I was the one who asked the question first why don't you answer mine first 

Red4life said...

Problem is that if you have finished 2nd, 3rd, 4th 5th, 6th, 7th or whatever the case may be then you have failed to win.

Septimus is comparing a team wich Rafa built after 4 years to Kenny's team which he only started assembling last January.

Shoots itself...

Red4life said...

Success is based on trophies Septimus and that is something that only a selected few managed to taste in a Liverpool jersey from the 2008/2009 team.

jj said...

Septimus I know you like your history but you can't be living in the past we have to look forward to better times.

Red4life said...

We did not even qualify for the CL 2005/2006. We were allowed to play in it because we won it.

Madness said...

Reina, Carragher, Alonso, Gerrard (from the starting line up that featured throughout the majority of the year)

Madness said...

Just a question back at you - how much did that team cost the club?

jj said...

The problem is most fans are happy finishing fourth that is what hands teams like Man U and Chelsea the title they think they have got the money and there is no way we can compete with them.
I know(Septimus drama queen) we are still in the hunt for fourth with a team that is misfiring with 3 other teams who aren't exactly setting the world alight, anything is possible in this seasons premier league teams are losing games all the time, we need a string of wins no bloody draws before February with Spurs,Manure and Everton then lets see where we are in the league.  

Red4life said...

Exactly my point.

Not may of Rafa's signings managed to win a trophy.

Now Septimus is taking Kenny's signing apart when the likes of Carroll, Downing, Adam and Henderson have not even played a full season yet.

Let's see how many trophies Kenny's signing end up with after 4 years then it would be fair to compare apples with apples don't you think Madness?

Success is based on trophies after all, not finishing 2nd...

Red4life said...

What does it matter what the team cost when Kenny has bought "overpriced british players"? Did Rafa buy many of these?

jj said...

Sorry Septimus with fans like you in the crowd we would never have come back and won the Champions League in 05! Would you have been standing in the crowd singing YNWA at half time to give the team that lift in their soul,heart and brain that the fans were with them or would you be banging on about how shit we were first half and if we still had Owen,Heskey or Murphy we would be winning.
The team is misfiring but it is no where near as shit as you go on it's embarrassing to read how our fans stick the knife in on our players now a days, no fucking patience!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jj said...

On lfc tv now the top 20 video clips of ISTANBUL watch the fans Septimus!

Madness said...

Agreed, it took Rafa 3/4 years to tweak a side so Kenny should have the same amount of time to produce the same.

I have not been one to expect it to happen this year, of course it will take time, but I want us to push for CL next year as hard as we can as it will benefit this transition a lot.

Ro said...

Carroll proved a point to all those people on his back and hopefully this will be the boost he needed as I feel he just needs game time and is very young. We scored 4 goals without Downing's so-called "Assists" howz that a bad night for some of us who dont rate him.  Downing's got a decade of premiership experience behind him and with the number of games he has played this season, his standard of football has been very poor and negative.  Cannot expect Enrique to defend and take on players for him all the time.  Its proved one thing, he'd make a great supersub!!!

A satisfied fan signing off with a smile... 

Septimus_severus said...

jj Did I talk about 2005/2006 ?

Have you answered my question ?

Quid pro quo JJ 

Septimus_severus said...

jj Did I talk about 2005/06?

Have you answered my question ?

quid pro quo 

red_rooster said...

it's not only winning trophies, but about the way we play, Rafa destroyed Houlliers team with Valencia. he was supposed to implement that mentality into his liverpool team he partially did see a video of liverpool build up play, and then look how our current players build up play especially the new signings, yep that's right aimlessly putting crosses in the box. today's game showed that if the team worked hard and provided space for carroll he will score, they did it against oldham, never did against any other premier league team, maybe there is a transition period but all the signs on heaven and earth don't really show any even a tiny sap of something great, just totally mediocre

Pastor of Muppets said...

It was a very offensive 4-1-4-1 with Gerrard and Jonjo pulling the strings in fromt of Jay, not something our players are used to and it showed in the first half, but paid dividends in the 2nd. Having 2 playmakers in the British mould was always going to benefit either the pacy Bellamy or the big Carroll up front where the whole team plays further back.

I disagree it was mediocre. We certainly did not look very good and Oldham got to play abit more than our premier league opponents but I think that was the idea. We were then able to attack forward, rather than sideways or backward, like if we had our fullbacks or wingers crossing across the goalmouth or Suarez waltzing around the penalty area.

For all Carroll's poor movement and different sense of positioning, the big man has a tremendous first touch that he can't use to great effect too close to the goal. Carroll is on target most of the time, except his shots often find the keeper or a defender when he's in the 6 yard box, which is where Enrique, Suarez and Downing love to put their crosses. Johnson and Adam like to cross from the corner of the 18 yard box, which is often in line with Carroll, and hence, he is never on the end of them. Whenever the crosses come in from a yard or 2 behind the 18 yard box, that is where Carroll has the chance to take aim and make full use of his powerful shot, like he did against Man City last season, this game, and while he was at Newcastle. This can only happen when we aren't trying to unpick a parked bus that we have already forced into a more compact shape. The fact that Shelvey and Gerrard can and will attempt to shoot from further out will pull defenders out and we saw this on display today. This constitutes but 1 sign of something great.

Downing also scored. This means we finally have some luck coming our way! Our first goal was a little fortuitious too, but it managed to set the tone for the match. Much like we did not deserve 3-0 to City, We didn't deserve 5-1 here either. Both matches were closer than the score looked.

Thescouse said...

I know this might sound harsh ( or does it ) but what is the point of playing Aurelio , apart from the regular fullbacks we have Kelly Flanagan Robinson , Wilson out on loan , don't get it , still let's hope we can do something in the cup like win it and the other cup too , like the man said KENNY MOVES IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS , HIS WONDERS TO PERFORM , fingers crossed

jj said...

I didn't and you didn't mention 2005/06??????????
That team of 08/09 caused just as much frustration as this with failing to beat promoted and so called lesser teams look at the results before the end of January draws against Hull and Stoke at home draw away at Stoke and Wigan the failure to beat Fulham and West Ham at home but wins at Chelsea and Everton you could actually draw comparisons with these 2 teams then actually saying one team is better if you compare half season results!!!!!!!!!!! 

jj said...

I did have a Rafa rant at you, but Jaimie hasn't posted it I did use an inappropriate word though in my frustration at inpatient fans!

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