Liverpool striker Luis Suarez was yesterday charged by the FA over his alleged spat with Man United's Patrice Evra, but during his press conference a couple of minutes ago, Kenny Dalglish point-blank refused to comment on the issue.
When asked for his views, Dalglish shut down the Journalist straight away:
"I think the statement says everything and our position has not changed in any way, shape or form. That's all I've got to say."
When pressed again, Dalglish said: "I just said that's all I've got to say."
When asked a third time, Dalglish snapped:
"I don't know if you've got wax in your ears but I just said the statement says what we've got to say and we have not changed our position in any way, shape or form."
Liverpool released the following statement last night:
"The Club this afternoon received notification from the Football Association of their decision to charge Luis Suarez and will take time to properly review the documentation which has been sent to us.
"We will discuss the matter fully with him when he returns from international duty, but he will plead not guilty to the charge and we expect him to request a personal hearing.
"Luis remains determined to clear his name of the allegation made against him by Patrice Evra. The Club remain fully supportive of Luis in this matter".
Dalglish made his position on the issue clear a couple of weeks ago, and based on his new statement, it clearly means he still supports Suarez 100%:
"We've got a hunded percent faith in Suarez and how he conducts himself. We want it resolved as quickly as it possibly can be, but correctly; and we want the perpetrator punished. I don't think we need to add any more than that".
Jaimie Kanwar
When asked for his views, Dalglish shut down the Journalist straight away:
"I think the statement says everything and our position has not changed in any way, shape or form. That's all I've got to say."
When pressed again, Dalglish said: "I just said that's all I've got to say."
When asked a third time, Dalglish snapped:
"I don't know if you've got wax in your ears but I just said the statement says what we've got to say and we have not changed our position in any way, shape or form."
Liverpool released the following statement last night:
"The Club this afternoon received notification from the Football Association of their decision to charge Luis Suarez and will take time to properly review the documentation which has been sent to us.
"We will discuss the matter fully with him when he returns from international duty, but he will plead not guilty to the charge and we expect him to request a personal hearing.
"Luis remains determined to clear his name of the allegation made against him by Patrice Evra. The Club remain fully supportive of Luis in this matter".
Dalglish made his position on the issue clear a couple of weeks ago, and based on his new statement, it clearly means he still supports Suarez 100%:
"We've got a hunded percent faith in Suarez and how he conducts himself. We want it resolved as quickly as it possibly can be, but correctly; and we want the perpetrator punished. I don't think we need to add any more than that".
Jaimie Kanwar
I heard suarez could be banned for minimum 6 games, that would be terrible
ReplyDeleteIm glad KD did not say anything, he has probably been advised not too because it seems likeley that despite a personal hearing Suarez will end up paying for this. A lot of criticism has been thrown at the FA but I dont think they would charge him without something to back them up or Luis could take action against them for ruining his name.
ReplyDeleteWhat Luis has admitted to calling him has not helped as it is a matter of perspective. Maybe a Uruguayan team mate or south american would not mind him saying that word but they may have deemed that it does not count for everyone, in my opinion if I didnt understand the context in which it is used in South America I would hardly think of it as a term of endearment upon hearing it.
Luis may end up being an example made by the FA, we need to hope that if he is found guilty then any ban imposed is minimal and that the stigma of this will not have too much effect on his performances.
Mark Sawyer director of the center for the study of race, ethnicity and politics, at the university of California, today told CNN that the FA are on dodgy ground legally here. Negrito is NOT offensive in Latin American culture, fact!!!
ReplyDeleteMan Utd players use the same term regarding Evra, are they racist too???. Really the FA are flying a kite here but could end up in court along with Evra, Liverpool's lawyers are happy to defend such a flakey case, with little 'Impartial' evidence available.
Im amazed the FA are risking a huge lawsuit, as they really can't afford it!!!!
I think the Club, The Manager, All Playing Staff and Supporters have no choice other than to support Luis Suarez during this difficult period for him. He has been charged with abusing a fellow player my understanding is this is not a Racial Abuse Charge. We must support him until there is either a no case to answer or guilty outcome to the charges. He may be guilty of non racial verbal abuse for which I hope he gets just a warning as to his future conduct. He is from a different background/culture and sometimes words have different meanings in different cultures so lets just see what happens.
ReplyDeleteAgreed!!!, I think it's stretching it to convict Suarez on flakey evidence, yes he abused him but not racially, anyone who plays football winds up the other team It's natural. To say he is racist but Evra's colleagues aren't is a joke, they use the same term!!!
ReplyDeleteAfter spending a 100 mill on shit signing and still being a 'couple' of signings away from being a top team ... do you think Liverpool can afford a lengthy trial?
ReplyDeleteAlso offence is perceived. You might not mean offence but when you go to a new country you adjust. Evra is a free to perceive Suarez's comments offensive. Its upto the FA to decide. Also just as Suarez(allegedly) doesn't know that his words are offensive in England, Evra doesn't know that his words are deemed okay in Uruguay. So Evra will escape on the same grounds Suarez does (if he does).
If Suarez is an MU player no action will be taken. Remember the infamous kung fu kick byan MU player years ago, I cant remember his name but he let off scot free witha community service.
ReplyDeleteIs it not timely on the Fa's behalf that on the day Blatter utters the biggest foot in mouth statement on racism within the game, the FA, not on the most friendly of terms with Blatter and FIFA charge Suarez, seems like a bit of twisting the knife into Blatter, at Suarez and Liverpool's expense, or am i reading a little too much between the lines, shadier things have happened in the world of football governance, just look at Quatar !!!
ReplyDeleteI think you will find Utd are swimming in debt, unlike Liverpool!!!
ReplyDeleteIs Suarez guilty of Overt racism???, clearly not...............a can of worms have been opened and the FA are going to have to be 100% right or face court action, too many variables in the case to prove it's Beyond Reasonable Doubt!!!
ReplyDeleteThe FA has also been sitting on this case for more than a month then they see fit to make an announcement 2 days before the commencement of 3 massive games for Liverpool. Surely this will affect Suarez's game!
ReplyDeleteAshfah how long have you been watching football? If you are on about Eric Cantona he was banned from football for 8 months.
ReplyDelete(also well done on not making a Lucas comment on an unrelated article, no sarcasm intended but you are showing good progress, keep it up)
If Liverpool FC think Suarez is being hung out to dry on this matter and he undoubtedly is, they should employ the only sanction against the FA they have at their disposal That is to with draw the club from the FA Cup
ReplyDeleteWhat a load of bollox! Fucking French pussy monkey cunt!
ReplyDeleteOn the one hand we've heard that there were no witnesses to what was said between the two players. On the other hand, we've heard Suarez say "even the Manchester players were surprised that Evra took offence" (they apparently call him the same word). So were there witnesses or not? If there were, why is the whole thing a gray area and why did it take so long for the FA to come to this conclusion? If the Manc players call him the same word, how on earth can they charge Suarez for doing the same thing? Sorry, I don't understand...
ReplyDeleteI think you make the point very well, that is the problem they have, If Luis is racist then so are they!!!!
ReplyDeleteIf there is a case against him it will need solid evidence. Ironically, Suarez probably provided that when he ill-advisedly spoke to the Uruguayan media. He put the noose around his own neck. He should have been under a total gag order. That said, if he is guilty of racism then, sorry, he deserves a ban and/or a fine. No self-respecting LFC fan can or should argue otherwise.
ReplyDeleteThe reason he spoke was because he found out that certain manc players use the same term to Evra, he was getting that out in the public domain.
ReplyDeleteDefinaition of Negrito : A member of any or various small statured, indigenous peoples of Africa, The Philippines,The Malay peninsula, The Andaman Islands and Southern India.............what's racist about that......(Dictionay.com)
ReplyDeleteLiverpool dealt with this quite badly at the outset, calling for Evra to be banned if the allegations were unproven. Assuming that they had asked Suarez what had happened he would presumably have told them that he had used a word, which had perhaps been misunderstood. Why then call for a ban for Evra? He is as entitled as Suarez is to be unaware of the connotations of a word in a different culture.
ReplyDeleteIt may be best at this stage to make it very clear what he did or did not say as this would pave the way for a reduced penalty if he is ultimately found guilty. It would also still allow for a defence to be run that he is entirely innocent of the charges because of the word's innocent meaning.
The defiition above damages any FA action based upon that word NEGRITO, It is not a racist slur at all.
ReplyDeleteSuarez has been bullied by british press / people since the game
ReplyDeleteagainst Ghana (proving they dont understand this sport).
Suarez
is an amazing player, humble, always working for the team, and they
are trying to frame him as a diver, cheater, racist, etc... instead of
protecting one of the best players in their league (if not the best).
The only mistake he did in his career was the bite, that was very stupid and he knows it.
I believe England is an underachiver country, in football terms, while Uruguay is the complete opposite.
They
call south american cheaters, but England is the one that won only one
world cup with a goal it was not (at home, with an english FIFA
president)
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none of this is relevant the way i look at it is we all no what john terry said,even on u tube u can lip read him but sepp blatter does say somethink that is undermining racism, its disgusting then the fa go for a scapegoat cant be r england captain so they go for suarez cos hes not engilsh doesnt that make them racist.
ReplyDeletewhat about John Terry's case with Anton? Why no news on that? It's super BS man!!
ReplyDeleteashfah you clearly need to go back to the drawing board. But I understand as you were probably not born when that occured.
ReplyDeleteThe problem is that the use of 'negrito' is racist in the sense that calling someone a 'black' so and so is racist.
ReplyDeleteIt's getting a little bit PC to be honest, because where do you draw the line?
e.g. You English prick, yoiu ginger prick, you Paddy prick, you african prick, you white prick.Are they all racist now?
This is all about JOHN TERRY. The FA are just looking to divert the
ReplyDeleteattention away from Terry when he is eventually charged on what appears
to be clear case of John Terry using the derogatory terms. Two
different camera angles and statements from QPR and Chelsea players
clearly point towards JT making those comments. The evidence is stacked
up against JT and I believe FA are struggling to find a way out of not
charging JT. This is PR disaster for FA, particularly when the
popularity of the English National side is on the decline. Recent polls
reflect this and the latest attendance figures at Wembley suggest this
to be true.
The idea is by charging two leading premiership players from the two of
the most popular english clubs, it takes the heat away from John Terry-
the English National football team Captain.
As i said at the start of my post- THIS IS ALL ABOUT JOHN TERRY.
We'd still be winning. 19.
ReplyDeleteDo the FA have to prove things beyond reasonable doubt? I hope they do but it's not a court of law
ReplyDeleteThis could drag on and on to the CAS if Suarez is found guilty
Oh no... If England's captain is proven racist, then this is equal to the FA also racist, which they bully the non-English players.
ReplyDeleteHow long is something 'breaking news' for?
ReplyDeleteNot 5 though!!!!.............ha ha ha
ReplyDeleteNow that you mention it , if someone has to be banned it must be lickass. Afterall he has committed a bigger crime than Luis. If suarez alleged racist comment deserve a 6 match ban then licas mediocrity on the field deserve at least a 6 month ban...
ReplyDeleteI was listening to an argentinean football journalist talking about this on the radio and he was saying that there are plenty of players in argentina that are known as el negro (fernando caceres) and el negrito, and would happily call themselves as such, even though they don't have any african ancestry.
ReplyDeleteHe said that the word negrito can be a term of endearment, and affection. However, it really depends on your intent. If someone isn't "your negrito," (your pal) and happens to be black, and you are trying to wind him up, then it is offensive even in south america.
I suppose the best way to think of it as a large culture where it is acceptable to call your friends "My Nigga" regardless of race. However if someone isn't your friend and you're having a row with them, the -a becomes an -er.
As far as we can gather from his interview with uruguayan radio, this is the word that suarez admits to saying. However since he isn't evra's friend, then the cultural misunderstanding argument is in a bit of trouble.
Luis scores 4 goals in one game against the #16 ranked team in the world, and the entire world is talking about how he called Evra a negrito. What is the world coming to?
ReplyDeleteshut the fecker up with 5 there didnt you Gano
ReplyDeletePretty soon the game won't matter. Only what players say to each other will be newsworthy. I used to play when I was younger, and I went as far as threatening to kill my opponents if they looked at me the wrong way. Thank God I never made it to the EPL. I'd be in jail for attempted murder.
ReplyDeleteIn Uruguay there's a guy on the national team that is nicknamed "the monkey". It's a different culture and there is an accepted football slang that terms like this are thrown around harmlessly.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.ovaciondigital.com.uy/111116/futinter-606743/futbolinternacional/el-mono-seguiria-en-el-benfica/
The sad reality is that "negrito" is an offensive word in Uk, Europe and North America. FA is not there for studying the different meanings of a single word. Manchester United training ground is a different context from Anfield game. I sadly think that Luis will be handed a minimum ban by FA, considering his intentions were honest.
ReplyDeleteSuarez's ban will give our guys the chance to cope without our key player: there's no better opportunity to grow as a team.
I hope for a quick recovery of our cpt.
Mate, in England and Europe "negrito" or "negro" (in italian language) is a racism expression. I'm committed to Suarez, but Luis needs to be more comfortable with english language and He needs to understand that He lives and works in England now, not in Brazil or Uruguay.
ReplyDeleteAt the end, probably Luis will hand a ban, but it wont'be the end of the world: We must think to support the Club and all the lads Who will replace Luis and will try to double their efforts to replace him.
We're not a man team, We are a Club. We can cope without Luis, We must deal with Luis ban.
Maybe the FA needs to ban itself.
ReplyDeletehold on here. There is no honest intent here. Evra and suarez were at each other's throats. Suarez had wildly kicked evra in the knee and was looking to have evra booked for it. (it could very easily have been a red card for suarez) Lets be honest here. Suarez is the sort of player who tries to wind opponents up. He put his hand on evra's head, and evra nearly went insane.
ReplyDeleteIf you're having a row with someone, negrito ceases to be a term of affection, and becomes offensive. even in uruguay. I'm sure he's not a racist, but his language is really not appropriate. (if that is what he has said happened)
I truly agree with You and I'm fully committed to Luis, but every country has different proverbs, idioms, words, with different meanings. It's not possible to check the words etymology at any occasion. Luis needs to get a grip on english language, like any professionist Who is working abroad.
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I think everyone will win here. Liverpool can maintain that Luis was simply "over-zealous" in what he said, perhaps naively ignorant of the impact of using a term that he has probably used for years without incident. However he will get punished, the FA will see to that. I think a ban would be appropriate. Ignorance is not an excuse. So he'll be punished, he should learn that he needs to watch what he says, no matter what his cultural background. The FA will be able to say that they act on racism, even "milder" forms of it. Liverpool will not have to punish their own player or disown him in any way. I can't see it being a long term issue.
ReplyDeleteThe FA do not need to prove beyond reasonable doubt as to whether Suarez meant the "term" offensively or not, the small panel will make their own minds up and decide on any punishment.
ReplyDeleteI agree with the previous comments suggesting this has been dragged out intentionally to see what the media reaction would be to John Terry's case. If JT's case had been a "flash in the pan" media-wise, then Suarez and Evra's spat would have probably been resolved by now with a "watch your future conduct" slap on the wrists for BOTH players.
The timing of the FA's announcement is clearly media based and such a poor reflection of an institution that is supposed to administrate football matters in the "home of football". All the focus will now move to 2 foreign players, keeping our England captain sheltered to some extent. I'm sure JT will still receive some disproportionate punishment for his actions but fortunately for him and the FA the media will probably be too busy with Suarez, Evra and the out-of-touch Blatter to mount much of an inquiry.
What does this say to foreign players, foreign managers and foreign investors?
What does it say to rest of the footballing world?
Could we charge the FA through the media for bringing the game into disrepute if Suarez is found guilty by them and then tries to clear his name through legal proceedings?
The FA, and all English football by association, would end up massively embarrassed if that happens as no court would find anybody guilty with such poor evidence that is open to many differing interpretations.
If JT has racially abused AF to the extent that has been reported - and remember anything said between these 2 players is not open to any cultural misunderstanding - then as England captain, and generally as a human being, he should face the same penalties through the court that you or I would.
It could even be argued that if JT is found guilty of racially abusing AF in front of such a large crowd, and with the influence he holds with fans as the England captain, that he should be tried in a crown court for potential incitement of racial violence, an offense that carries a custodial sentence.
In short, this could all pan out very badly for the FA and English football. I think they must have been consulting a "magic 8-ball" for advice, probably not for the first time either!!!
Evra is black. How can that be racial abuse? It's a joke!
ReplyDeleteAnd there I was thinking some of our fans have grown up... clearly not.
ReplyDeleteI live in South America - Negito or Neginho (brasil) is not offensive amongst friends but if you use it in a arguement you are meaning to offend and insult. It's in the context. Was Suarez saying as a friendly comment? I'll leave that to interpretation.
ReplyDeleteI understand what you are saying but the general opinion seems to be that it can be interpreted both ways. From suarez and liverpool's point of view it is a concern that he appears to have continued to call him by this name when it was clearly causing considerable offence. That undermines his case somewhat.
ReplyDeleteI am a firm supporter of LFC and I a truly believe that racism must never exist in football or any other sport for that matter. Even if the derogatory word used by Suarez is affectionately accepted in Latin American, Suarez has no business using that word on numerous occasions during the course of the Liverpool-Man U game. Let's not be blinded by our love for the great football club we support. Suarez is guilty as charged and no amount of denying will change that.
ReplyDeleteadministrate? Is this French?
ReplyDeleteIn the definition there is no mention of black, read it again!!!!
ReplyDeleteI think you make a good point, It's a different culture and nuances!!
ReplyDeleteI have been saying the same, FSG have the power to take the FA to court if they find Suarez guilty on flakey evidence. Any Barrister could rip them apart in court, no problem. The definition does not mention black at all, It's very open to interpretation, thus a legal minefield!!!!
ReplyDeleteSays who and where is the footage????
ReplyDeleteYou could easily passed yourself off as some Queen's Counsel, until you started to talk nonsense.
ReplyDeleteUm Sharky, I think you'll find it was BarryYates that shut up quick, it was Gano that made the comment about 5. I agree it's all about perception, however, Evra is making a habit of being a "victim of racism".
ReplyDeleteI'm a lifelong Liverpool fan, but to be honest mate, it's all about perception. As an Australian with English parents, I've been called Skip and Pom and that's "ok", but if I call someone from the Mediterranean countries a Wog, then I'm deemed racist, however all three are racist terms and can be used in both a friendly banter way, but also an insulting way
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